Trending Up



Welcome to Trending Up, where we speak of practical faith-principles and seek to apply them to our every day life. Brought to you by two friends, Edgar de Leon and Sebastian Lopez.


  • T29 - The Loyalist (Type6)

    15/10/2019 Duración: 24min

    We talk about Enneagram Type 6 - The Loyalist; their strengths, weaknesses, and comparison to Bible characters. Enneagram Type 6 The committed, security-oriented type. Sixes are reliable, hard-working, responsible, and trustworthy. Excellent "troubleshooters," they foresee problems and foster cooperation, but can also become defensive, evasive, and anxious—running on stress while complaining about it. They can be cautious and indecisive, but also reactive, defiant and rebellious. They typically have problems with self-doubt and suspicion. At their Best: internally stable and self-reliant, courageously championing themselves and others. Basic Fear: Of being without support and guidance Basic Desire: To have security and support Key Motivations: Want to have security, to feel supported by others, to have certitude and reassurance, to test the attitudes of others toward them, to fight against anxiety and insecurity. Bible figure: Peter Strengths Just like the name, you’re loyal and committed. And like Rut

  • T28 - The Investigator (Type5)

    08/10/2019 Duración: 21min

    We talk about Enneagram Type 5 - The Investigator; their strengths, weaknesses, and comparison to Bible characters. Enneagram Type 5 Fives are alert, insightful, and curious. They are able to concentrate and focus on developing complex ideas and skills. Independent, innovative, and inventive, they can also become preoccupied with their thoughts and imaginary constructs. They become detached, yet high-strung and intense. They typically have problems with eccentricity, nihilism, and isolation. At their Best: visionary pioneers, often ahead of their time, and able to see the world in an entirely new way. Basic Fear: Being useless, helpless, or incapable Basic Desire: To be capable and competent Key Motivations: Want to possess knowledge, to understand the environment, to have everything figured out as a way of defending the self from threats from the environment. Bible figure: Thomas Strengths You’re driven by logic and straight-thinking more than emotions and can tend to be distant and aloof when you’re

  • T27 - The Individualist (Type4)

    01/10/2019 Duración: 25min

    We talk about Enneagram Type 4 - The Individualist; their strengths, weaknesses, and comparison to Bible characters. Enneagram Type 4 Fours attempt to control their shame by focusing on how unique and special their particular talents, feelings, and personal characteristics are. Fours are self-aware, sensitive, and reserved. They are emotionally honest, creative, and personal, but can also be moody and self-conscious. Withholding themselves from others due to feeling vulnerable and defective, they can also feel disdainful and exempt from ordinary ways of living. They typically have problems with melancholy, self-indulgence, and self-pity. At their Best: inspired and highly creative, they are able to renew themselves and transform their experiences. Basic Fear: That they have no identity or personal significance Basic Desire: To find themselves and their significance (to create an    identity) Key Motivations: Want to express themselves and their individuality, to create and surround themselv

  • T25 - Enneagram Type 3

    24/09/2019 Duración: 27min

    We talk about Enneagram Type 3 - The Achiever; their strengths, weaknesses, and comparison to Bible characters. Enneagram Institute Type 3 Threes try to deny their shame, and are potentially the most out of touch with underlying feelings of inadequacy. Threes learn to cope with shame by trying to become what they believe a valuable, successful person is like. Thus, Threes learn to perform well, to be acceptable, even outstanding, and are often driven relentlessly in their pursuit of success as a way of staving off feelings of shame and fears of failure. Threes are self-assured, attractive, and charming. Ambitious, competent, and energetic, they can also be status-conscious and highly driven for advancement. They are diplomatic and poised, but can also be overly concerned with their image and what others think of them. They typically have problems with workaholism and competitiveness. At their Best: self-accepting, authentic, everything they seem to be—role models who inspire others. Basic Fear: Of being w

  • T25 - Enneagram Type 2

    17/09/2019 Duración: 26min

    We talk about Enneagram Type 2 - The Helper; their strengths, weaknesses, and comparison to Bible characters. Enneagram Institute Type 2 Twos attempt to control their shame by getting other people to like them and to think of them as good people. They also want to convince themselves that they are good, loving people by focusing on their positive feelings for others while repressing their negative feelings (such as anger and resentment at not being appreciated enough). As long as Twos can get positive emotional responses from others, they feel wanted and are able to control feelings of shame. Twos are empathetic, sincere, and warm-hearted. They are friendly, generous, and self-sacrificing, but can also be sentimental, flattering, and people-pleasing. They are well-meaning and driven to be close to others, but can slip into doing things for others in order to be needed. They typically have problems with possessiveness and with acknowledging their own needs. At their Best: unselfish and altruistic, they have

  • T24 - Enneagram Type 1

    10/09/2019 Duración: 24min

    We talk about Enneagram Type 1 - The Reformer; their strengths, weaknesses, and comparison to Bible characters.  Enneagram Institute Type 1 Ones attempt to control or repress their anger and instinctual energy. They feel that they must stay in control of themselves, especially of their instinctual impulses and angry feelings at all times. They would like to direct these energies according to the dictates of their highly developed inner critic (superego), the source of their strictures on themselves and others. Ones are conscientious and ethical, with a strong sense of right and wrong. They are teachers, crusaders, and advocates for change: always striving to improve things, but afraid of making a mistake. Well-organized, orderly, and fastidious, they try to maintain high standards, but can slip into being critical and perfectionistic. They typically have problems with resentment and impatience. At their Best: wise, discerning, realistic, and noble. Can be morally heroic. Basic Fear: Of being corrupt/

  • T23 - The Enneagram?

    03/09/2019 Duración: 23min

    Trending Up is all about improving ourselves and our relationships, so we're journeying with the Enneagram to learn more about ourselves and how to better relate with others. The Enneagram is a personality test that is broken up into a set of nine distinct personality types, numbering 1-9. 1 is the Reformer. 2 is the Helper. 3 is the Achiever. 4 is the Individualist. 5 Is the Investigator. 6 is the Loyalist. 7 is the Enthusiast. 8 is the Challenger. 9 is the Peacemaker. Points to consider from the Enneagram Institute It's common to find a little of yourself in all nine of the types We are born with a dominant type this inborn orientation largely determines the ways in which we learn to adapt to our early childhood environment. People do not change from one basic personality type to another. The descriptions of the personality types are universal and apply equally to males and females, since no type is inherently masculine or feminine. Not everything in the description of your basic type will apply to

  • T22 - Black and Latino Connection

    27/08/2019 Duración: 27min

    Part 2 of our conversation with Garrison where we discuss the connection between Latinos and African Americans.  Check out our episode in Youtube here: Find our show notes here: Garrison Hayes twitter profile:

  • T21 - Black in America

    20/08/2019 Duración: 38min

    Garrison Hayes joins us to talk about his experience as a black man in America and what it's like especially considering our current political and divided climate.   Check out our episode in Youtube here:  Find our show notes here:  Garrison Hayes twitter profile:

  • T20 - Thinking about Thinking

    13/08/2019 Duración: 30min

    Join us as we talk about the importance of our thoughts and the mold-ability of our minds to become what we behold.  Our minds are wonderfully incredible machines and yet they are extremely moldable. That is why it is important to be aware of what we are putting in, because what we behold, we become. Article about couples looking like each other Heather Thompson Day (Twitter profile: Study that showed that our mind cant tell the difference between thoughts we think and reality. The more we focus on negative words and thoughts the more you can actually damage key structures that regulate your memory, feelings, and emotions. Negative thinking is self perpetuating. The more you expose your brain to it the more it will automatically generate additional negative feelings. Disrupt Negative Thoughts! The faster we can interrupt our brains reaction to real or imaginary threats, the quicker we can g

  • T19 - El Paso, Texas & Dayton, Ohio

    07/08/2019 Duración: 32min

    We talk about our reaction to the shootings in El Paso, Texas and Dayton, Ohio where many lost their lives and where countless others were injured.  We remember the families of those affected and those who have lost loved ones, our heart goes out to you.  News about shootings:  NPR Up First - The Daily Times - What is empathy illustrated video by Brené Brown: Anniella Rigacci (Sebastian's Cousin) Post on Facebook: There is not a right or wrong way to react or respond during a traumatic event or crisis. People respond/react in different ways. In the midst of a trauma or crisis, it is not appropriate nor is it helpful to tell someone how they should react or respond to what is happ

  • T18 - Sports and Faith

    30/07/2019 Duración: 40min

    How much sports is too much? Can we be a fan of sports and still be Christian? Join us as we talk about the role of sports and our faith.  “Physically, Samson was the strongest man upon the earth; but in self-control, integrity, and firmness, he was one of the weakest of men. Many mistake strong passions for a strong character, but the truth is that he who is mastered by his passions is a weak man. The real greatness of the man is measured by the power of the feelings that he controls, not by those that control him.” PP 567 Check out our episode in Youtube here: Find out more about us here: Chantal's Fitness Instagram page

  • T17 - Mental Health with Robert Colon

    23/07/2019 Duración: 48min

    Robert Colon comes on the podcast to talk about his journey with his mental health and how he found recovery and healing. He speaks on his work now in helping others through his experience. Check out our episode in Youtube here: Revive Ministries: Revive Ministries Instagram: Suicide Prevention Hotline  1-800-273-8255 Substance Abuse Hotline 1-800-662-4357 National Human Trafficking Hotline 1-888-373-7888 Not Ok App

  • T16 - Why We Stayed

    16/07/2019 Duración: 35min

    Edgar and I discuss the reasons we chose to stay in the church and how that has impacted us to this day.  For our episode notes, check here: Check out our episode on Youtube here:

  • Trender 4 - Devin Anavitarte

    09/07/2019 Duración: 42min

    Devin and I talk about his life and his journey with Jesus.   Enspire Productions  Devin and Stefanies (1st) book: Shepherd of Oldeam found on Amazon -

  • T15 - Our Church Memories

    02/07/2019 Duración: 48min

    Take a listen as Edgar and I talk about our church memories from our childhood. For our episode notes, check here:

  • Trender 3 - Wandile Mthiyane

    25/06/2019 Duración: 41min

    Listen to my conversation with Wandile and the many great things that he is doing for his community in South Africa.   Find him on Facebook @wandile.mthiyane  Email:  Check out some of his stuff here:  "Ubuntu Design Group" - "Child of Apartheid Trailer" - "Feature Maker" -

  • T14.2 - God's Keys (Part 2)

    18/06/2019 Duración: 32min

    Join us as we continue to talk about the keys to life that God has left for us in the Bible. God's Keys are His commandments that are found in Exodus 20 & Deuteronomy 5 They are God’s keys for our relational success 10 things you don’t have to worry about First 4 commands - our relationship with God (Vertical) Last 6 commands - our relationship with others (Horizontal) Throughout the last 6 keys, it is as if God is saying throughout, “I VALUE PEOPLE” I value your parents and family I value your belongings and those of others I value your life and the life of others I value faithfulness in relationship Love for Others “Honor your father and mother, that you may have a long life” IOW = “You can enjoy a life of harmony with your family and those around you, because of the principles that I am teaching you.” Through the Spirit’s power I was obedient and respectful to my parents, trying to think about how they felt, and not just the way I felt. “Do not murder” IOW = “You do not have to kill or

  • T14 - God's Keys (part 1)

    11/06/2019 Duración: 38min

    Join us as we talk about the keys to life that God has left for us in the Bible. God's Keys are His commandments that are found in Exodus 20 & Deuteronomy 5 They are God’s keys for our relational success 10 things you don’t have to worry about First 4 commands - our relationship with God (Vertical) Last 6 commands - our relationship with others (Horizontal) Matthew 22:37-40 “Teacher, which is the most important commandment in the law of Moses?” Jesus replied, “‘You must love the Lord your God with all your heart, all your soul, and all your mind.’This is the first and greatest commandment. A second is equally important: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ The entire law and all the demands of the prophets are based on these two commandments.” Love for God “Have no other Gods” IOW (In Other Words) = “You do not have to have other gods, I AM ENOUGH” I spent time with God each day before I did anything else, thinking about His love and asking Him to guide my day. “Do not make an image - to be worshipped” IOW =

  • T13 - Projection

    04/06/2019 Duración: 41min

    In our relationships, we project feelings and emotions on others. Edgar and I talk about projection and how God projects good on us.  Projection is a defense mechanism that people subconsciously use in order to cope with difficult feelings or emotions ( Projection is the single most derailing and destructive phenomenon in intimate relationships. It hurts our partners by casting them into a false role, and blocks authentic communication. ( How to avoid it: 1. Look within - Is the actual issue/problem with you, pause before you "attack" and see the role you play. 2. When you get triggered, stay with the feelings - Don't attack the person, but express how their actions made you feel. 3. Be aware of stress - the higher your stress level, the fewer emotional resources you will have. What to do when your partner is projecting 1. Be patient and lovin

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