Andrew and Ben have both been beset by illnesses and had to reshuffle the podcast schedule. But the two most recent episodes were recordings of panels from Arisia, a great con in Boston. Ben recently spoke about that experience on his other podcast he hosts as part of his job, and it makes a great follow-up to the Arisia episodes. So come listen about why a podcast, in some ways, matters more to us than doing our strictly academic work. Arisia is a greta sci-fi, fantasy, and general nerd convention in Boston you should attend. Wide Eyed Christianity is Ben's other podcast, and where the audio for this episode came from. Listen to a couple episodes if you found this chat interesting.