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Every year my dear friend Sacha Jones comes back on the podcast around my birthday for a conversation. She is one of the most creative, wise, and gentle people I know and I always love speaking with her. Our annual catch-ups end up being time capsules of what we've learned the past year both from the podcast and from what's happened around us. Like most people, Sacha and I both had a wild year personally and collectively so we unpack the ways we've changed. We cover grief, loss, closure, and leaving new york, but it's not all heavy! We also talk about Sacha getting her photo taken by Bill Cunningham while riding her bike, and more. Show Notes:-Check out Sacha on the Web- Sign up for our LET IT OUT letter to get show notes sent straight to your inbox - Full show notes here Sponsors:- Browse the  Organifi.com shop and use code LETITOUT for 20% off all Organifi products.- Sakara is offering our listeners 20% off their first order when they go to Sakara.com/letitout or enter code LETITOUT at checkout.- Get $15 of

Loré is one of my favorite writers. We originally connected when she reached out to interview me for The Creative Independent. She has written about intimacy, identity, and interconnection for The New York Times and Man Repeller. She also facilitates writing workshops and has a monthly newsletter called All The Reasons I've Cried Lately. In this week’s episode, we get into dating and bond over the fact that we’re both hopeless romantics. We cover social media, indecision, intention, writing, moving to New York, and dealing with life’s highs and lows. And we discuss some of her essays and poems. Show Notes:- Connect with Loré: Web | Newsletter | Workshops- Loré interviewing Katie for The Creative Independent- Sign up for our LET IT OUT letter to get show notes sent straight to your inbox - Please join me in supporting The Central Ohio Freedom Fund. The Central Ohio Freedom Fund is a black-led, black-centered organization which exists to work towards the elimination of cash bail.- Full show notes here Sponsors:

This week I spoke with two guests, Becca Millstein and Caroline Goldfarb. Living with each other at the beginning of the pandemic and observing each other's eating eventually led them to a business idea: a tinned fish company called Fishwife. This week we talk about the stigma associated with eating foods that people scoff at, working with close friends, and transitioning careers. Becca's background is in the music industry and Caroline is a comedy writer, podcast host, and viral internet artist who goes by the name Official Sean Penn on IG. We cover writing, juggling multiple projects, collaborations, productivity, and the habits and routines that help them with it all. Show Notes:- Find out more about Fishwife on the Web | Instagram | Tick Tok- Follow Caroline on the Web | Instagram- Sign up for our LET IT OUT letter to get show notes sent straight to your inbox - LET IT OUT kits- Please join me in supporting the Loveland Foundation. The Loveland Therapy Fund provides financial assistance to black women and

This week one of my favorite authors returns. Kayleen Schaefer is a journalist and author of Text Me When You Get Home, she also wrote the bestselling Kindle Single memoir Fade Out. Her work has appeared in The New York Times, Vanity Fair, The New Yorker, Vogue, and many other publications. Her new book, But You’re Still So Young, is out now. It follows eight people struggling to make the leap to adulthood. It includes sociological research and weaves in her own story. In this episode we talk about how this generation is redefining what it's like to be in our 30s. And how a checklist that sociologists created in the 1950s is no longer relevant, or even possible for many. The checklist was: "finish school, leave home, make your own money, marry and become a parent." We talk about how race, class, and privilege play into the ability and desire to meet these old benchmarks. Plus, we cover Kayleen's writing rituals, how they've changed, her advice to writers, and more. Show notes:- Kayleen's new book, But You're

Mari Orkenyi and I became fast friends. Our conversation really came alive in the second half and I didn't want to cut anything out, so this is part two of last week's episode. Mari is a Contemplative Educator, Mindfulness and Compassion Teacher and Writer. Her work lives in the space where Contemplative Practices, Buddhist Psychology and Western Psychotherapy intersect. As a native Brazilian immigrant with Hungarian roots, living in Los Angeles by way of Spain and Mexico, her multicultural perspectives and backgrounds are continuously informing her work. In this week’s episode, we talk about the quality of presence, acceptance, Buddhism, social media, love, cooking, and Mari gives me some wonderful personal advice. Show notes:- Check out Mari's work on The Web and Instagram- Download our FREE new zine, "The Creative Combination"- Sign up for our LET IT OUT letter to get show notes straight to your inbox - Katie's book- full show notes here Please join me in supporting:- The Asian Mental Health Project offers

Mari Orkenyi and I became friends the moment we met. Our conversation flowed and I didn’t want to leave anything out so I decided to break it into two parts. Mari is a Contemplative Educator, Mindfulness and Compassion Teacher and Writer. Her work lives in the space where Contemplative Practices, Buddhist Psychology and Western Psychotherapy intersect. As a native Brazilian immigrant with Hungarian roots, living in Los Angeles by way of Spain and Mexico, her multicultural perspectives and backgrounds are continuously informing her work. In this episode we talk about the connection between mindfulness and creativity, allowing yourself to take up space as you are today, motherhood, boundaries, identifying as an artist, growing up in Brazil, catching ideas, and much more. Show notes:- Check out Mari's work on The Web and Instagram- Download our FREE new zine, "The Creative Combination"- Sign up for our LET IT OUT letter to get show notes straight to your inbox - Katie's book- Use code "SPRING" for 25% off the WR

This week I spoke with my friend Helen Phelan, a body neutral intuitive pilates instructor and founder of digital pilates and mindful fitness platform, Helen Phelan Studio. As an ex-professional dancer and eating disorder survivor, Helen's approach to exercise is based on her lived experience that diet culture keeps people stuck in a bad body image loop that makes them dread movement despite its mood and energy boosting benefits. Her methodology is movement in a non-harmful, post-recovery form. We met when I took a class of hers in NYC and have collaborated on events and digital workshops (available here). She's been featured in InStyle, HuffingtonPost, and Well+Good. When she's not working she is snuggling her rescue pup or hiking in the Catskills. In this episode, we discuss communication, patience, bodies, movement, pilates, eating disorder recovery, romantic relationships, and more. Show notes:- Check out Helen's online platform, Helen Phelan Studio- The Support the AAPI Community Fund to #StopAsianHate-

This week I brought back on the podcast for the third time, a friend of mine, writer, and host of the One Part Podcast, Jessica Murnane. Jessica's second book Know Your Endo helps people who experience endometriosis feel less alone. In this conversation we catch up, chat about making it through hard moments, and having to keep moving while feeling things intensely. She's one of the most empathetic people I know. We also get into a deep dialogue about social media, our ever changing and complex relationship with it, and how it relates to memories. We talk about her creative process, her writing process during the pandemic in the midst of homeschooling her son, and she shares her HappyThankYouMorePlease prompts. Show notes:- Last chance to join semester 2 of Creative Underdogs!- Connect with Jessica on The Web | Instagram- Please join me in supporting Exalt, an organization that provides New York City youth with a roadmap to change their lives.- Sign up for our LET IT OUT letter to get show notes straight to yo

This week Naomi Powell, founder of The Lifestyle Edit, returns to the podcast. Naomi is also a mom, and since our last conversation she's expecting her next baby! This week is the next episode in our HappyThankYouMorePlease series where guests bring three prompts: something they're happy about, something they're grateful for, and something they're craving more of. In this conversation we hear Naomi's, and we cover: her advice for not letting challenging moments overtake us, separating our business from us, boundaries, shiny penny syndrome, connection, focusing, losing followers on Instagram, priorities and more.Show notes:- We're still accepting new members in Creative Underdogs!- Connect with Naomi on Instagram | The Lifestyle Edit | The Lifestyle Edit Podcast - Please join me in supporting Black Girls Smile, one of the leading organizations focusing on black female mental wellness.- Sign up for our LET IT OUT letter to get show notes straight to your inbox - Katie's book- LET IT OUT kits- full show notes he

This week is part 2 of my conversation with chef and author Julia Turshen. She has coauthored numerous cookbooks and is one of the great cooks and writers of our time. Julia not only loves cooking and writing about food, she also loves talking about it and hosts her own podcast which we spoke about in this week's episode. I could have spoken to her for two more hours and hope I get to in the future. We discussed her creative process, the process of coauthoring books, body image, diet culture and the food industry, the quiet power of cookbooks, how to avoid "co-dep cooking," cooking for others vs. cooking for one, and romantic relationships. Show notes:- Creative Underdogs starts March 1st!- Connect with Julia on The Web | Instagram | Twitter- Sign up for our LET IT OUT letter to get show notes straight to your inbox - Katie's book- LET IT OUT kits- full show notes here Sponsors: Join me live for the after show at stereo.com/katiedalebout.Visit athleticgreens.com/katie to get your FREE year supply of Vitamin D

Julia has coauthored numerous cookbooks and has written for TheNew York Times, the Washington Post, the Wall Street Journal, Vogue, Bon Appétit, Food & Wine, Saveur, and more. She’s one of the great cooks and writers of our time and The New York Times has described her “at the forefront of the new generation of authentic, approachable authors.” Julia not only loves cooking and writing about food, she also loves talking about it and hosts her own podcast, Keep Calm and Cook On. She’s genuine, talented, and kind. I loved this conversation with her that spanned a wide range of topics, including her creative process, working with big names on coauthored books, her new cookbook Simply Julia, body image, diet culture and the food industry, perfectionism as it relates to capitalism, effortlessness actually taking effort, connection, cooking for one, and more.new to *let it out* --> start with these linkskatie's siteour start here guideCREATIVE UNDERDOGS++ LET IT OUT letter  katie's bookLET IT OUT kits  Sponsors:

This week I spoke with visual artist Camilla Engström. Our conversation flew by and we ended up talking for nearly 3 hours, so I decided to break this up into two parts. In this second half, you'll hear about where she gets ideas, fashion, what informs her style, her thoughts on dating and romantic relationships, her current favorite beauty product, her dance videos and how they started, and more. She also answers rapid fire questions on behalf of Husa, a character that she paints.Show notes:- Connect with Camilla on The Web | Instagram- Apply for Creative Underdogs (semester 2 begins March 1st!)- Join me for my new weekly live show on Stereo every Thursday at noon PT!- Georgia O'Keeffe (Artist)- Eckhart Tolle- The Power of Now (Book)- A New Earth: Awakening to Your Life's Purpose (Book)- 3CE lip & cheek makeup- Sadhguru Podcast- The Future is Beautiful Podcast- Brené Brown's Podcast- Camilla's dance videos If you liked this episode try out:- Artist Camilla Engström on creative process, habits, routines,

This week I spoke with visual artist Camilla Engström. Our conversation flew by and we ended up talking for nearly 3 hours, so I decided to break this up into two parts. In this first half, you’ll hear about her her upbringing in a small town in Sweden, her parents meeting in China, her move to Shanghai, her unplanned move to NYC to study fashion, and how she ended up eventually becoming a painter. We move up to the present and talk about how moving to LA impacted her personally and professionally, and what her life is like now including her habits, routines, and creative process. She talks about her meditation and journaling practices, art influences, and her thoughts on spirituality, including what happens when we die. Show notes:- Connect with Camilla on The Web | Instagram- Apply for Creative Underdogs (semester 2 begins March 1st!)- Join me for my new weekly live show on Stereo every Thursday at noon PT!- The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle (Book)- Georgia O'Keeffe (Artist)- Hilma af Klint (Artist) If you

This week I spoke with the very creative filmmaker & ceramicist Madelynn De La Rosa. Madelynn brings intentionality and beauty to all she makes. She is passionate about French cinema, sustainable fashion, and her dog Violet, and we spoke about all three in this conversation. We cover her upbringing of moving all over and changing schools, starting her YouTube channel, moving to LA, what she’s learned from breakups, being a freelancer, and the uncertainty that comes with freelancing. We also cover style and creating a space that feels authentic, film (she gives a bunch of recommendations), what she wants to do next creatively, and her creative process. She’s incredibly talented, sweet, and easy to talk to.  Show notes:- Connect with Madelynn on The Web | Instagram | YouTube- Creative Underdogs- Fire Walk With Me (Movie)- Twin Peaks (Show)- Fishtank (Movie)- American Honey (Movie)- Andrea Arnold (Director)- Letterboxd- The Criterion Channel- Tampopo (Movie)- Donkey Skin (Movie)- Hermit (Maddie's video)- Tra

This week I spoke to my close friend, chef, author, and writer Phoebe Lapine. She is one of the most creative and self-aware people I know, and I deeply admire her and her work. She was first on the podcast in 2017 when her first book The Wellness Project came out. She has a new book out now which I genuinely love and have been learning to cook from. We catch up in this episode about what the pandemic has taught her, procrastination and creativity, having to wear multiple hats as an artist, intimacy in relationships, being adult only children, and of course she came with her HAPPY THANK YOU MORE PLEASE.Show notes:- Phoebe's book SIBO Made Simple- Phoebe's earlier books The Wellness Project and In the Small Kitchen- Connect with Phoebe on The Web | Instagram | Facebook- Food Psych Podcast- The Great British Bake Off- Tik Tok- Creative Underdogs- Follow @letitouttt on Instagram- Katie's book- Let It Out Kits If you liked this episode try out:- Episode 180 with Phoebe new to *let it out* --> start with these lin

This week I spoke with Meena Harris, a Harvard-educated lawyer, best-selling children's book author, founder and CEO of Phenomenal, and mom. Meena's outstanding work in social change and empowerment is in her blood - she's the niece of vice president elect Kamala Harris and the daughter of Kamala's sister Maya Harris, a civil rights lawyer and public policy advocate, who once led the nation's largest ACLU affiliate. Meena's first book Kamala and Maya's Big Ideais based on her mom and aunt, and her second book Ambitious Girl was just published. We talk about the inspiration and process behind both books, as well as the need for inclusion within children's literature. We also spoke about community building, organizing, writing, motherhood, friendship, being an only child raised by successful powerful women, and more. Show notes:- Meena's books Kamala and Maya's Big Idea and Ambitious Girl- Phenomenal- Meena Harris, Building That Brand (Article)- Connect with Meena on Instagram- Creative Underdogs If you liked t

Today’s guest is Dr. Saundra Dalton-Smith, a board-certified internal medicine physician with an active medical practice near Birmingham, Alabama. She is also an author and an international media resource who has been featured in Prevention, MSNBC, Women's Day, Redbook, self, and numerous other media outlets. In this episode, we talk about different types of rest, friendship, love, boundaries, mental refocusing, and more. Since this is a bit of a shorter episode, I also share some of the top lessons I learned in 2020. Show notes:- Creative Underdogs is starting again in March!- Dr. Saundra's website- Sacred Rest (Book)- ichoosemybestlife.com- restquiz.com- Codependent No More (Book)- Dr. Michelle Bengston- Be The Bridge (Book)- Kamala and Maya's Big Idea by Meena Harris (Book) If you liked this episode try out:- Episode 28 with Shawn Stevenson new to *let it out* --> start with these linkskatie's site: https://katiedalebout.com/our start here guide: https://letitouttt.com/general/start-here/++ LET IT OUT lett

As our last episode of the year, I thought it would be fun to do a year in review of the music of 2020 with my friend James McCrae. Neither of us are music experts, but we do have similar taste in music and got a lot of comfort out of music this year. It’s been such a strange year and so hard for artists to not be able to tour, and as consumers we miss live shows so much. In this episode we each came with 3 albums we loved this year and talked about songs we listened to on repeat. We also talked about how art is always best when you "go with yourself," as Fiona Apple said in her 1997 speech. And in the vein of being yourself, we end the show with a conversation with Dr. Sophia Kogan about body image, vanity, how our hair defines us, and standards of beauty.Show notes:- LET IT OUT Holiday Workshops!- Connect with James on The Web | Instagram- James' Book- Fiona Apple- Charli XCX- Pitchfork's Albums of The Year Podcast- Waxahatchee- Lilacs by Waxahatchee (Music video feat. Marlee Grace)- Song Exploder episode a

This is the fourth episode of the HappyThankYouMorePlease series we started this year, where each guest comes with three cues:-something they’re happy about-something they’re grateful for-something they want more ofWhat’s great about this series is that I can bring back guests, which is what I got to do this week with my close friend Christine. We recorded this earlier this week at my kitchen table over wine and snacks. It’s a cool conversation with one of my favorite people who I’m constantly learning from. In this episode we talked about: skill & personality in work, creativity and productivity and what helps her with both, the uncertainty of being a freelancer, becoming more financially responsible, attachment theory and boundaries in relationships, learning new skills, change and not staying stagnant, friendship, and she recommends a few other things.Show notes:- Christine's Youtube channel- Christine's ceramics- Christine's safety razor tutorial video- The Four Agreements (Book)- Attached (Book)- Gur

This week I spoke with Whitney Kent Chamberlin. In this conversation we talk about how he was shaped by his tumultuous childhood, and his career that ranged from marketing to photography to starting a bunch of businesses. One of these was an event called Field Trip, which feels like a culmination of his interests, work, and experiences. We talk about navigating unexpected twists this year with covid, meditation, parenthood, relationships, slowing down, self-awareness, identities, being an introvert, and creativity. He also gives some really sage advice on friendship.  Show notes:- Connect with Whitney on The Web- Check out our 2020 gift guide and our home gift guide- Field Trip- Unconditional Love (Song)- Sinéad O'Connor - Thank You For Hearing Me (Song)- Guillame Wolf (Author)- Under the Skin (Movie)- A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood (Movie)- Won't You Be My Neighbor (Documentary)- Soulmates (TV show)- Honey Mama's Chocolate If you liked this episode try out:- Episode 115 with Bob Roth- Episode 259 with T