200churches Podcast: Ministry Encouragement For Pastors Of Small Churches

Jeff and Jonny talk with Karl Vaters, a 200church pastor from Orange County, CA and founder of NewSmallChurch.com, a blog devoted to Small Church ministry. This is only 30 minutes of an almost hour long conversation we enjoyed. Karl is full of vision and energy, and most importantly, passion for the body of Christ! Karl will definitely be back to join us again on the podcast!