Firewalls Don't Stop Dragons Podcast

On January 12th, 2025, the ShmooCon hacker conference held it's 20th and final gathering. I was lucky enough to be able to not only attend the final show but also to interview the founders, Heidi and Bruce Potter. We talk about how it all got started, what made this hacker con so special and beloved, and hear some hilarious stories from the past twenty years of hacker shenanigans in Washington D.C. Interview Notes ShmooCon: https://www.shmoocon.org/  ShmooCon 2025 sessions: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnKSfJ5rXw95HSPVl5L7dqhKpVAx3q_j0  Turngate: https://www.turngate.io/  HOPE conference: https://www.hope.net/  BSides: https://bsides.org/  Cackalackycon: https://cackalackycon.org/  Thotcon: https://www.thotcon.org/  SummerCon: https://www.summercon.org/  PancakesCon: https://pancakescon.com/  Further Info My book: https://fdsd.me/book  My newsletter: https://fdsd.me/newsletter  Support the mission: https://fdsd.me/support  Give the gift of privacy and