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  Joining Charles Adrian at the Farm Shop in Dalston for the 60th Second-Hand Book Factory is actress Liz Chan. They have a calm and quiet talk and exchange memories in different forms. Disclaimer: Having asked his guest to turn off her phone, Charles Adrian failed to turn off his; he apologises, therefore, for a little electronic interference towards the beginning of this recording. He also apologises for the occasional sound of chewing as he eats some rather nice lemon drizzle cake.