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For the 48th Second-Hand Book Factory, Charles Adrian talks to category-hopper Jaya Hartlein about life being not like it is in the movies, questions of scale and suitable topics for Applied Theatre. Jaya, as is somehow not mentioned, has just finished a Masters in Applied Theatre. Incidentally, if anybody else is unaware of the Pina Colada song, it turns out to be very easy to find on youtube. Of course.