Right-side Up Leadership Podcast

Sabbatical gets misunderstood, feared, and misused — and most leaders either wait too long to take one or avoid it altogether. In this episode, Alan joins Andrew Estes on the Nexus Church Planting Podcast for a conversation that cuts through the baggage and gets honest about what a sabbatical actually is, why boards resist it, why church planters think they can't afford it, and why the leaders who take it well come back with more vision, more creativity, and more fire than they've had in years. If you've ever thought sabbatical is for someone else, someone further along, someone with a bigger team — this one is for you. What You'll Learn: The difference between micro, medium, and macro rest — and why you need all three to lead sustainably Why sabbatical is not discipline, not a vacation, and not an escape — and what it actually is The abundance vs. scarcity mindset that determines whether a leader can truly rest Why boards and congregations fear sabbaticals — and how to address every one of those fears hones