Dummy: Interviews With Smart People About Soccer

This week on DUMMY, we’re joined by writer James Dorsey, to discuss how Saudi Arabia is using soccer as a diplomatic tool to further isolate Iran from the rest of the world. Plus, Dermot Kavanaugh, the author of Different Class: Fashion, Football & Funk, the Story of Laurie Cunningham, about England’s first black soccer player discusses the book and the man who inspired it. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices