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Michael Says… This week we bring you a special collaboration with the illustrious First Gen Burden Podcast. Jaeki and Joann sit down with host Rich Tu and break bread on the good and bad of growing up in immigrant families and how that manifests in their careers in the creative world. Learn about how Rich worked his way through SVA night school eventually rising to design sneakers for Nike and becoming the VP of Digital Design at Viacom.  Also, get the inside scoop on Jaeki and Joann’s upbringing moving from South Korea to LA  and New York respectively. We go international with this edition so make sure you listen and give us a review.  _____ Listen to episodes of First Gen Burden Podcast Website: https://firstgenburden.com/ Follow on IG @Firstgenburden Stream it on - Apple Podcast | Spotify | SoundCloud See Rich Tu's works at  Website: https://richtu.com/  & IG @Rich_tu Check out AIGNY https://aigany.org/ where Rich is a board member.  If you feel like watching TV make sure