Thumpcast With Jeff & Dave

This week we talk about how important vision is in smaller churches and moreover how vital clarity is in getting the vision for your church.  We discuss: -Why small churches need vision to fight complexity -We talk about the tendacy of smaller churches to roll out generic vision so they don't really have to change -We talk about how complexity confuses disciple making -We then shift to clarity and what you need to do to determine where you are.  That clarity takes time. -We talk about the importance of starting with your leadership first -3 ways to get clarity on who your church family is:               -Conversations with members               - Surveys at the right time               -Prayer, prayer, and more prayer Resources mentioned this week: Simple Church by Thom Rainer and Eric Geiger https://www.amazon.com/Simple-Church-Returning-Process-Disciples/dp/0805447997/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1487273735&sr=8-1 Church Unique by Will Mancini  https://www.amazon.com/Simple-Church-Returning-Process-Di