Fun With Dumb

*Please note that there may be some disturbing or triggering material discussed in this episode.* Charles Ryu escaped North Korea for the first time when he was a teenager. We talk about propaganda, watching Will Smith on a black-and-white TV, and what kind of courage it takes to survive a labor camp, interrogation, and crossing the border into China.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices