That's What She Said

...in which I interview Flying Kites' Executive Director, Leila Chambers, about how she keeps her nonprofit organization going day after day and year after year.  I ask about failure, I ask about success, I ask about lines she will not cross in the name of raising money, and I ask about how you can find a nonprofit organization you love as much as I love me some Flying Kites.  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.