The Way Out Podcast

In this edition of The Way Out I’m downright ecstatic about bringing you all my interview with musician and person in long term recovery STATiC whom I had the tremendous opportunity to meet while doing our still very much relevant Panel Discussion on Staying Sober for the Holidays along with mutual friend Shane Ramer and The Way Out’s spectacular co-host Jason Rudeen which is available for your listening pleasure on episode number 267 on the very same platform you’re listening to this episode on. STATiC shares his super relatable journey to and through Recovery to this point with us with true sincerity and humility along with an abundance of Recovery and Spiritual wisdom to boot. STATiC and I have an absolute blast as we talk growing up as self-identified misfits in the 80’s and 90’s, our mutual love of guitars and great music, and of course STATiC’s road to Recovery, woven with the all the pain, struggle and adversity along with the vital tools, truth and hope that his story and life now very much embodies -

In this edition of The Way Out, our beloved recovery podcast co-host Jason catches up with an old friend, Cynthia Baade who is a person in long term recovery and a Certified Peer Recovery Specialist Reciprocal. Now time for a moment of total and complete transparency for a purpose about this interview. One of Cynthia’s little ones is in the background on and off as you heard in the intro and that continues in the interview along with a cacophony of background noise on and off. My first gut instinct was we needed to scrap the whole thing and re-record the entire interview. But then I decided I was going to start editing it anyhow, which now feels very much like a Higher Power moment. No doubt, the audio on this interview is far from perfect despite my best efforts to work my editing magic. What is also undeniably true is how genuinely authentic and refreshing it is to hear Cynthia tell her story with the medley of sounds that make up the day-to-day life of a parent in Recovery. Life isn’t perfect and flawless,

This week I’m thrilled to bring you an interview with person in long term recovery Kim Bemis, who is also the Founder and Executive Director of Gobi Support, the first and only online platform that offers drug and alcohol prevention and early intervention programs for parents and their teenagers. As a person in long term recovery himself, along with years of working in the addiction treatment industry, Kim saw a gap in the services provided by traditional drug and alcohol treatment centers in that they provided services only after dependency or addiction presented within an individual, largely overlooking the role prevention could play in stemming potential problem use among people of all ages, but most critically, teenagers. Thus, Kim worked to bring Gobi Support to fruition which is laser focused on reaching 13-17 year old’s who are experimenting with drugs and alcohol with the goal to prevent future substance abuse and dependence. Kim shares with us his highly relatable journey to and through recovery to t

In this installment of The Way Out, spectacular recovery podcast co-host Jason has a downright authentic and relatable interview with person in long term recovery, Pedro Zuniga. Jason and Pedro talk about life, love, family, and discuss some common hurdles that many of us face while repairing our relationships in recovery. Jason and Pedro’s conversation reveal some key recovery truths such as how the ongoing process of learning a new way to live leads us to a more intimate knowledge of ourselves. Indeed, every situation we go through clean and sober brings about just a wee bit more wisdom and confidence that we can live life on life’s terms no matter what life throws our way. Pedro’s story is incredibly instructive and very easy to relate to for any one of us no matter where we are at in our own recovery so listen up. Contact info for Pedro: 763-807-6210 Book recommendation: The Big Book of Alcoholics Anonymous Best piece of advice: "You can't save the world. You can't save them. It's their choice if they wan

In this edition of the The Way out we have an incredibly illuminating and enlightening interview with a truly special guest in Randy Anderson, who is a person in long term recovery, recovery advocate extraordinaire and an overall tremendous human who dedicates himself to improving access, availability, and equity in recovery services both locally in Minnesota and nationally through training individuals in and advocating for critical recovery services like peer recovery support services. Randy’s journey to and through recovery to this point is without question chalked full of adversity, both in childhood as well as in active substance use complete with a prison stint and a meaningful recovery that provided the foundation for Randy to be the incredible recovery advocate he is today. Randy shares with us a wealth of recovery wisdom and insight into how recovery advocacy works and more importantly why it matters so listen up. Contact Randy and learn more about Bold North Recovery: https://www.boldnorthrecoveryand

In this edition of The Way Out our beloved recovery podcaster and Cohost Jason has an outstanding interview with person in long term recovery and Peer Recovery Support Specialist Supervisor, Kyle Brewer. Jason gets an opportunity to really connect with Kyle and his journey to and through recovery to this point which is chalked full of universal Recovery and Spiritual wisdom and truths. Kyle's a gifted individual who has found his purpose managing the Arkansas Peer Specialist Program Grant, and working for NAADAC, The Association for Addiction Professionals. More specifically, Kyle supervises the Peer Support Services in the E.R. at The University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences. Kyle shares his lived experience as a person in long term recovery and talks about how he uses that in his ministry and in peer recovery services so listen up. Contact Kyle: kbrewer@naadac.org Kyle's Peer Specialist Program: https://www.naadac.org/arkansas-peer-specialist-program?__cf_chl_jschl_tk__=pmd_UQ8y9ZqZk41y2li.shaPXhRt3rXFbR

This week we have an early Holiday Treat for you with an encore presentation of the first ever live streamed recovery show featuring Recovery podcast cohost extraordinaire Jason and I along with none other than That Sober Guy Shane Ramer with special guest STATiC. The link to the video is in the show notes, so be sure to check that out should you have an overwhelming desire to see the faces behind the microphones you hear every week. We cover a whole range of recovery topics all centered on staying sober during the Holidays. We discussed having a sober holiday plan, having fun sober, self-care in Recovery & more plus we took live questions from those who watched it live so listen up. Watch the video here: http://ow.ly/7NnM50GMwoS (c) 2021 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0 (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/) --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/the-way-out-p

In this installment of The Way Out our good friend and person in long term recovery, Buddy C. joins us for an incredibly enlightening and downright instructive discussion that is jam packed with spiritual and recovery truth centered on Buddy’s new book Powerless but not Helpless. Powerless but not helpless is an incredibly useful and instructive distillation of the underlying principle in each verse of the Toa Te Ching for those contemplating or already living a sober lifestyle. Buddy artfully combines each principle with a direct correlation to universal tenets of 12-Step recovery further crystallizing the clear connection between them. Buddy and I discuss often discussed but perhaps not well understood spiritual concepts of surrender and forgiveness, which are core to the Toa’s spiritual teachings as is the spiritual truth that in order to truly experience love, we must actively and intentionally give it through acts of service and kindness to our brothers and sisters in and out of recovery. Without questio

In this edition of the Way Out Jason the recovery co-host with the most talks with person in long term recovery Erik Bolton, who shares his story of addiction and alcoholism with us, along with plenty of hope that not only is recovery possible, life is MO Better clean and sober. Erik was offered a chance in early recovery to be a part of something that ended up being a total game changer... to work for MONetwork for Opioid Reform and MO Better Living sober housing. As you’ll soon find out, Erik’s a natural leader for the folks in his community and a fine example of what meaningful and enduring recovery can look like so Listen Up. Book Recommendation: Just For Today https://www.amazon.com/Just-Today-Meditations-Recovering-Addicts/dp/1557761515/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1634867271&sr=8-2 Best piece of advice: "Don't make someone else's stuff yours" Recovery Song: Nobody Greater by Vashawn Mitchell https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QSbqSuwwx0 Contact Erik: Erik Bolton 3143913127 Missouri Net

In this rendition of The Way Out, we have an unapologetically and downright British interview with bona fide Pacific Crest Trail Through Hiker, author, person in long term recovery, and grateful member of Alcoholics Anonymous, Person Irresponsible who hiked 2653 miles starting at the border of Mexico in California and ultimately arriving at the US/Canadian border in northern Washington State just as a global pandemic was poised to take the world by storm and not only lived to tell about it, wrote a spectacular book that is equal parts travelogue, 12-Step reflection, and recovery memoir weaved together in hilarious and poignant fashion. Person Irresponsible or PI to those of us who’ve had the pleasure to meet her, is a pseudonym as is custom for those who embark upon the Pacific Crest Trail or PCT for those in the know. PI shares with us about her extraordinary odyssey that was the PCT hike, her journey to and through recovery to this point, and an abundance of spiritual and recovery truth centered in her expe

In this installment of The Way Out, recovery co-host extraordinaire Jason’s got an incredible interview with a real dynamo of a guest with person in long term recovery, entrepreneur and author, Jeff Vickers. Jeff has an infectious personality, and his energy is so uplifting that you can’t help but feel how fired up he is about recovery! Jeff shares openly about his gritty past, what's worked miracles in his life, and all about his new book, Sober Slogans as well as his big plans for the future! This is a great interview that will leave you wanting to learn much more, so listen up. Contact Jeff: soberslogans@gmail.com FB: @SoberSlogans TikTok: sober_slogans IG: sober_slogans Sober Slogans: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1737194007/ref=nodl_?ref_=pe_3052080_397514860 Best piece of advice: Keep comin' back Book Recommendation: The Bible Song that symbolizes recovery: Legends are Made - Sam Tinnesz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKVZrbitbd8 (c) 2021 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (

In this rendition of The Way Out we have an outstanding interview with person in long term recovery, drug counselor, and podcaster Carl Fessenden. Carl has had the opportunity to work with some of the top professionals in the mental health field and has helped hundreds of people overcome addiction in his work as a counselor and now he’s expanding his impact on the recovery community through his new podcast The Drunken Worm Podcast. Carl shares his recovery journey to this point with us with a unique blend of candor and hilarity, and all along the way we get a veritable cornucopia of spiritual and recovery truth reinforcing that if you’re willing to do the hard work a worthwhile life in recovery is not just possible it’s 100 percent worth it so Listen Up. Connect with Carl: https://thedrunkenwormpodcast.com/contact-the-host Website: wwwthedrunkenwormpodcast.com Patreon: https://thedrunkenwormpodcast.com/subscribe How to listen: https://thedrunkenwormpodcast.com/the-podcast Shop: https://the-drunken-worm-podcas

In this edition of the extravaganza otherwise known as The Way Out Podcast intrepid and nothing short of spectacular Co-Host Jason interviews Bonafede Recovery powerhouse Nadine Machkovech, who’s on a mission to change the world by igniting change and shining her light in a universe often filled with darkness. She has graced the TEDx stage, was profiled in Forbes, and received national survivor advocate recognition from the National Safety Council. She is dedicated to building a life centered around self-care, service, and reconnecting others to their greater purpose in life. Nadine shares her story, speaks her truth and Recovers Out Loud with us while sharing a message that meaningful and enduring recovery is not just possible it’s absolutely worth it so listen up. Book Recommendation: Rising Strong by Brene Brown https://www.amazon.com/Rising-Strong-Ability-Transforms-Parent/dp/081298580X Song that symbolizes recovery: Second Chance by Shinedown https://youtu.be/WbsDPbr8qoM Best piece of advice: " It's your

In this rendition of The Way Out my super-star co-host Jason has an outstanding interview with person in long term recovery, Tori Volk. This conversation with Tori Volk will indeed resonate with anyone, but especially with all you mothers out there in Way Out Podcast Land. It’s challenging enough facing co-occurring disorders, but when you add in some complicated parenting issues, it's truly a miracle to get through it clean and sober! Tori shares her journey to and through recovery with us to this point, and without question Tori’s determination and perseverance is sure to inspire anyone who’s already in, or contemplating recovery so listen up. Contact Tori: hefta7@gmail.com Recovery Literature (Quit Lit) Recommendations: Codependents' Guide to the Twelve Steps: Beattie, Melody: 9780671762278: Amazon.com: Books Destination Joy: Moving Beyond Fear. Loss, and Trauma in Recovery.: Larsen, Earnie: 9781592850372: Amazon.com: Books Song that symbolizes Tori's recovery: Sia - Footprints (Audio) - YouTube (c) 2021 T

In this edition of The Way Out we’ve got a stellar interview with person in long term recovery, entrepreneur, author, and gifted storyteller, Dino Miliotis. A self-made millionaire twice over, Dino shares his journey to and through recovery this point with a frankness and candor that is as disarming as it is enlightening. Dino takes us on the rollercoaster ride of his entrepreneurial successes and the material rewards that came along with it along with the pernicious, progressive and ultimately all-consuming nature of his alcohol and drug abuse which led to nothing short of a physical, emotional and mental crisis that caused Dino to make a fateful and vital decision – to walk away from his billion dollar enterprise and ask for help with all of the humility and willingness of a truly desperate man and it paid off in a truly spectacular way. We discuss Dino’s recovery, success, entrepreneurialism, the incredibly important idea of bad habit displacement, where we replace negative behaviors with positive and the

In this edition of The Way Out we have recovery podcaster, and person in long term recovery Shane Ramer of That Sober Guy Podcast. I recently had the honor and privilege to share my story on Shane’s podcast and I couldn’t be more grateful to have had the opportunity to welcome Shane to The Way Out Podcast family to share his remarkable story and the spiritual and recovery truth embodied in it, with us. I’m more convinced than ever that people we don’t yet know aren’t strangers but friends we haven’t met yet, especially in the Recovery community. Indeed, Shane and I share much in common in and out of the realm of Recovery, so much so we’re very much like brothers from another mother! Shane and I do our level best to Recover Out Loud as we talk music, coming of age in the 90’s, our mutual love of walking with our Recovery dogs, the journey to recovery and the serendipity of recording this installment of The Way Out Podcast on the precise date of Shane’s 8 year sobriety anniversary so Listen Up. That Sober Guy P

This week the world’s best recovery podcast co-host Jason has a powerful interview with person in long term recovery, Wesley Verry. Wes talks about the utter unmanageability and insanity of his addictions, an insanity that also manifested in his relationships, which led him to be finally broken enough to stop talking and start listening to the solutions he was hearing in the rooms of 12-Step recovery. His detailed accounts of his journey are emotionally charged and indeed extremely relatable. Ultimately, Wes’s story is a true testament to the power of 12 step recovery to break the cycle of alcohol or drug addiction in anyone's life so listen up. Contact Wes @ wesleyadam1311@gmail.com Book recommendations: The Big Book of Alcoholics Anonymous https://www.aa.org/pages/en_US/read-the-big-book-and-twelve-steps-and-twelve-traditions Daily Reflections https://www.aa.org/pages/en_US/daily-reflection Song that symbolizes recovery to Wes- Hero by Skillet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9x2CHQClTU (c) 2021 The Way Ou

In this rendition of The Way Out, we have a stellar interview with person in long term recovery, recovery coach, and Phoenix facilitator, Myles Sandoval. Author Johann Hari is credited with coining the phrase “The opposite of addiction isn’t sobriety. It’s connection.” This idea embodies the impetus behind The Phoenix, which is a non-profit organization with the sole purpose to build a sober active community that fuels resilience and harnesses the transformational power of connection so that together participants rise, recover, and live. Often one of the greatest fears folks have prior to, or upon entering recovery is that living sober will be devoid of joy and we won’t have fun in sobriety. Myles proves this unequivocally false as a participant in The Phoenix community, where she creates meaningful connections with others in recovery through shared interests and activities like Yoga, CrossFit, Meditation, Mindfulness and now as the facilitator of the Phoenix group Role for Recovery where Myles integrates two

In this rendition of The Way Out our recovery co-host with the most Jason has a fantastic interview with Eric Schulz, and in this episode, Jason and Eric had quite the happy accident! After Jason and Eric rescheduled once, they got to celebrate Eric’s one year milestone on his actual clean date! If that isn’t a Higher Power Moment, I don’t know what is. Eric shares his journey with us and all the while Jason and Eric cover so many profoundly helpful topics and share a lot of practical tools that can help anyone find a way out of despair and hopelessness, so listen up. Contact Eric on Facebook- https://www.facebook.com/eric.schulz.37669 Song that symbolizes Eric's recovery- Luven Me by Nelly https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=nelly+luven+me+lyrics Book recommendation- 24 hours a day (c) 2021 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk)  licensed under CC BY-NC-ND  4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-n

In this edition of The Way Out we have a stellar interview with Clinical Psychiatrist, Addiction Medicine Specialist and Bio Ethicist Dr. Carl Erik Fisher. As a person in long term recovery himself along with his clinical and scholarly work, Carl brings a unique perspective to the treatment of addiction, and the positive change that occurs in recovery. Easily one of the most enlightening and instructive ideas forwarded by Dr. Fisher is the concept that recovery can be thought of and defined as any positive change in one’s life, which affords us the freedom to take the transformational power of the tools contained within our chosen recovery pathway and apply them broadly across any or all areas of our lives to affect constructive improvement. Recovery, in its purest form is a holistic wellness journey and we don’t have to limit it to one unhealthy habit, or just one addiction. Applying our recovery process that worked for a drug or alcohol addiction can work for addictive behaviors and even for behaviors and n