Eavesdropping At The Movies

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Sinopsis

"I have this romantic idea of the movies as a conjunction of place, people and experiences, all different for each of us, a context in which individual and separate beings try to commune, where the individual experience overlaps with the communal and where that overlapping is demarcated by how we measure the differing responses between ourselves and the rest of the audience: do they laugh when we dont (and what does that mean?); are they moved when we feel like laughing (and what does that say about me or the others) etc. The idea behind this podcast is to satiate the urge I sometimes have when I see a movie alone to eavesdrop on what others say. What do they think? How does their experience compare to mine? Snippets are overhead as one leaves the cinema and are often food for thought. A longer snippet of such an experience is what I hope to provide: its two friends chatting immediately after a movie. Its unrehearsed, meandering, slightly convoluted, certainly enthusiastic, and well informed, if not necessarily on all aspects a particular work gives rise to, certainly in terms of knowledge of cinema in general and considerable experience of watching different types of movies and watching movies in different types of ways. Its not a review. Its a conversation." - José Arroyo."I just like the sound of my own voice." - Michael Glass.

Episodios

  • 233 - Hoop Dreams

    08/06/2020 Duración: 44min

    From a central focus on two aspiring young basketball hopefuls from Chicago, Hoop Dreams weaves an incredible tapestry of race and class in America, without once explaining itself to the audience, without once winking and imploring us to notice something. William Gates and Arthur Agee, two black boys of about 14 or 15 years old, are plucked from their neighbourhoods by a scout for St. Joseph's High School in Westchester, a white suburban private school that dips into the inner city looking for talent to boost its basketball team, chucking back any kid that doesn't show enough promise. Over the course of several years, we follow William and Arthur's development. William and Arthur don't start in the same place - William is touted as the next Isiah Thomas, a former St. Joseph's alumnus who reached the NBA, and receives as an individual gift a personally guaranteed scholarship to St. Joseph's from a wealthy benefactor. Arthur is labelled with no particular expectation beyond that he shows the potential to go pr

  • 232 - Ema

    03/06/2020 Duración: 35min

    A somewhat elliptical family drama from Pablo Larraín, Ema tells the story of a young woman who returned a child she adopted, feels the loss deeply, and wants to get him back. We discuss the central performances from Mariana Di Girolamo and Gael García Bernal, how their characters throw the most painful insults at each other but remain so obviously in love, Ema's sexual fluidity and willingness to use sex as a tool, the poetic opening movement to the film including the astonishing on-stage, colour-shifting Sun, and whether Ema's pain is as apparent as we'd like. Recorded on 21st May 2020.

  • 231 - Burt Lancaster

    29/05/2020 Duración: 54min

    On a very special Eavesdropping at the Movies requested by our listeners, José takes us through the career of Burt Lancaster, every one of whose films he has been watching during the lockdown. Lancaster is a star through whose career a whole history of movements and evolutions in Hollywood can be tracked, from the studio noirs of the 1940s right through to the anti-war allegories of the 1970s, taking in all of the social, political, stylistic, industrial and aesthetic shifts that would take place in a constantly changing America. On screen, Lancaster was capable of moving fluidly between genres and styles, including noir, action-adventure and Westerns, won the 1960 Oscar for Best Actor for Elmer Gantry, was regularly amongst the top box-office stars from 1950-1965, and worked with some of the great screenwriters and playwrights, including Tennessee Williams and Arthur Miller. Off screen, he was one of the foremost independent producers of his day. He fought against McCarthyism during the height of the Red Sc

  • 230 - I vitelloni

    28/05/2020 Duración: 40min

    Federico Fellini invites us to hang out with a group of unemployed, lazy twentysomethings in 1953's I vitelloni, one of his earliest films and an interesting portrait of life in a sleepy Italian town. For José, comparisons to his youth in a sleepy Spanish town abound; Mike finds links to British films that evoke similar feelings. I vitelloni is both culturally specific and universally relatable - every society has some version of the gang one grows up with, and the middle-class youngsters who think they rule the place. We consider the motif of homosexuality - evoked in different ways by different characters, sometimes explicitly and sometimes only if we want to see it, but present throughout - and the theme of patriarchy, considering particularly the roles of women in the film, be they wives, mothers, or playthings, and ask what their agency is, if any - do they even believe they have any? Life in I vitelloni's seaside town is unconducive to personal progress, development, opportunity, and freedom, but where

  • 229 - Fedora

    15/05/2020 Duración: 50min

    Stardom, beauty, the machinery of Hollywood, madness, age - 1978's Fedora sees Billy Wilder occupying much of the same thematic territory of his 1950 classic, Sunset Boulevard. William Holden's has-been film producer attends the funeral of Fedora, a reclusive former film star, and thinks back on the recent trip he took to Corfu, attempting to track her down and coax her out of retirement. What unravels is a mystery, a conspiracy, a twisted mother-daughter relationship, and another in Mubi's strand of "perfect failures". Wilder's struggle to finance Fedora is apparent, José suggesting that in every part one can imagine a superior actor. Though that's perhaps scant defence of the tedious visual design - Dutch angles don't cost money, and the film is crying out for more visual expression than it offers. Mike explains his problem with the plot structure and particularly his dislike of "two weeks earlier" hooks, and we consider the way in which we're asked to believe in Fedora's incredible stardom while not reall

  • 228 - To Be or Not to Be

    07/05/2020 Duración: 40min

    Carole Lombard and Jack Benny lead chaos in 1942's To Be or Not to Be, Ernst Lubitsch's classic black comedy set amongst a group of actors turned resistors in occupied Poland. Considered to be in bad taste at the time, it was, to say the least, a bold film to make, one that mocked the very real and active threat of the Nazis to their faces. It's also endlessly witty and truly hilarious, generous and kind. It's a treat. We think about it in comparison to other satire, in particular that of Mel Brooks, who José argues has an aggression and contempt that Lubitsch avoids, while Mike suggests that their work shares an absolute unambiguity as to the targets they set and the messages they convey. But there's unquestionably a remarkable sensitivity of tone to To Be or Not to Be, as well as an effortlessly executed intelligence in plotting, with the love triangle of the opening leading cleverly, smoothly, and unpredictably, into the unmasking of a Gestapo spy. José can't speak highly enough of Lubitsch, above whom t

  • 227 - Southland Tales

    01/05/2020 Duración: 32min

    A film many have heard of and few have seen, Southland Tales is writer-director Richard Kelly's infamous difficult second album. Six years after his eventual cult hit Donnie Darko, this sprawling, confusing mess of an end-of-days parable was released to thunderous bafflement and almost no box office. We dive in and find that perhaps all we needed was to give it thirteen years to breathe. There's no defending much of the film's execution. Kelly's visuals are functional at best, almost never expressive, and rather obvious, there's an abundance of plot that feels at once over- and under-developed, and there's no emotional way in to significantly connect with any character. But Southland Tales is chock full of ideas and ambition, and there's much to respond positively to. José considers how its critique of American culture continues to resonate today; Mike suggests that alongside M. Night Shyamalan's The Village, it captures the state of mind of post 9/11, pre-financial crash, perpetually warring, deeply conserv

  • 226 - Twentieth Century

    29/04/2020 Duración: 38min

    A prototypical screwball comedy, 1934's Twentieth Century sees John Barrymore delightfully chewing the scenery as a pompous theatre impresario who discovers and makes a star of Carole Lombard's lingerie model. Having separated after several successful years, the former power couple meet by chance on the luxury Twentieth Century train, and it all kicks off as schemes are put into action, conflict erupts, and some religious bloke keeps putting stickers that say "REPENT" on everything he sees. Barrymore is sensational, sending theatrical types up and orating floridly and dramatically, while Lombard clashes with him spikily. We consider how well Twentieth Century fits into the screwball genre - the dialogue is snappy and witty, the situations farcical, the relationships barbed, although it's less of an even two-hander than you might expect, the focus heavily on Barrymore. Mike argues that the chemistry between the couple doesn't play as enjoyably as intended, and that the bits of business on the fringes, and the

  • 225 - Stranger on the Third Floor

    23/04/2020 Duración: 37min

    A 62-minute-long, 1940 B-movie whose director you haven't heard of and whose top-billed star has barely ten minutes of screen time, you'd be forgiven for thinking that Stranger on the Third Floor is nothing remarkable, but its reputation precedes it: Here we behold, if the legends are true, the first film noir. José, a lover of noir, both likes and dislikes this line. On the one hand, it enjoyably disrupts what is already a fairly shaky narrative of noir beginning practically overnight in 1941; on the other, noir is a term that encompasses many visual styles, stories, character types, associated genres and influences, and artistic movements like this develop gradually, not immediately. But this taxonomic discussion says nothing of Stranger on the Third Floor's quality. And for a good fifteen minutes or so, that quality is not promising, but the film explodes into life upon the protagonist's descent into a hallucinatory nightmare brought on by guilt and fear. It's José's first time seeing the film, and immed

  • 224 - Le Cercle rouge

    17/04/2020 Duración: 43min

    We conclude our dalliance with Jean-Pierre Melville with 1970's Le Cercle rouge, a heist film with an impressive cast of Alain Delon, Gian Maria Volonté, and Yves Montand. We discuss how genre conventions operate in the film - the shortcuts an understanding of genre provides allow details to make the difference, Mike suggesting that it all comes out through character relationships and quirks. In discussing Le Cercle rouge, we think back on what we've learned about Melville's style, themes and interests. For Melville, emotional attachment is dangerous and makes one vulnerable; it's a rather bleak outlook, but José argues that his films aren't without their romantic aspects. Mike remarks upon the way in which Melville's style has been interpreted and appropriated by the filmmakers he influenced, noting that the vivacity with which, for instance, Quentin Tarantino effuses about Melville is not reflective of Melville's films themselves, which are slower and more pensive than you might be led to expect. To José,

  • 223 - Army of Shadows

    12/04/2020 Duración: 36min

    Jean-Pierre Melville draws upon his experiences in the French Resistance for 1969's Army of Shadows, which depicts an ensemble including Lino Ventura, Simone Signoret and Paul Meurisse working to disrupt the Nazi occupation of France, rescuing Resistance members from captivity, operating safehouses... and killing informants. Army of Shadows' view of the Resistance is far from romantic, showing the ordinary people who comprise it being driven to extreme measures in the cause of remaining hidden and evading capture, and the threat of capture and death hanging over them at all times. We compare it to The Great Escape, a caper in which prisoners of war work towards a big victory - there's nothing of the sort in Army of Shadows, the Resistance only ever staying one step ahead of the Nazis pursuing them. Resistance itself is the victory, and it comes with costs. We think about continuities between this film and Melville's other work. The isolation felt in Un flic and Le Doulos comes through here, the Resistance

  • 222 - Le Doulos

    08/04/2020 Duración: 23min

    We visit another Melville, 1963's Le Doulos, about a network of criminals searching for an informer in their midst. Jean-Paul Belmondo plays his thief with such assuredly French swagger that it's no wonder why Quentin Tarantino names this film as a significant influence, though we also pick up on the story's similarity to Reservoir Dogs, in particular the botched robbery and snitch mystery. The film has clearly been preserved beautifully, the crispness of the images on Mubi's stream simply breathtaking. As with Un flic, we consider the characters' alienation, emphasised here through composition and framing, and their decisions, including the idea that all these men try to do the right thing by their particular code. Despite looking for things to like, Mike is ultimately nonplussed and a little bored by Le Doulos, preferring, on reflection, Un flic, while José, as ever the spirit of sunshine, beams with praise for it. We can at least agree that it looks fabulous. Recorded on 3rd April 2020.

  • 221 - Un flic

    06/04/2020 Duración: 31min

    Jean-Pierre Melville's final film, Un flic (A Cop), has a bleak feel, its characters isolated amongst harsh architecture and the neverending business of cops and robbers. Alain Delon's cop follows the trail of Richard Crenna's thief, whilst handling informants, other cases, and an occasional relationship with Catherine Deneuve. It's a film in which feeling shows through small actions, glances, and behaviour. The cop has seen the worst of humanity and carries a weariness with him, but that just makes his capability for generous gestures more meaningful. Mike remarks upon the similarity between cop and thief, both going about their work with a sense of lifeless inertia. We also note the central heist sequence's clear influence on the climactic set-piece in Brian De Palma's Mission: Impossible, comparing the ways in which the scenes work and what their intended effects may be, and José comments on the film's blue-tinged look, something that contributes greatly to its sense of melancholy. Recorded on 1st April

  • 220 - Commando and Predator

    03/04/2020 Duración: 36min

    Hollywood action in the Eighties was a world unto itself, and we look back on two specimens of one of the genre's icons, Arnold Schwarzenegger. One a delightful, over-the-top romp, the other a macho, moody sci-fi, we compare and contrast Commando and Predator. We're in agreement that Predator is the better film, but that Commando offers the better time. José describes this era as his awakening to the fact that heterosexual men were checking out each others' bodies - Arnie and co. are put on display, made to flex their muscles in absurd ways, their bodies painted in glistening sweat, for the pleasure of a straight male audience. We discuss how Arnie's extraordinary body means entire films have to built around it: elsewhere cast as a pseudo-Greek hero and android killing machine, in Commando and Predator he's theoretically human, but still a G.I. Joe male fantasy inhabiting similarly oversized films. Similarly, his accent always needs at least a hint of acknowledgement - the films taking a line of dialogue her

  • 219 - Bacurau

    31/03/2020 Duración: 34min

    A political parable, satire, thriller, high-concept actioner, horror, and Western all at once, 2019 Cannes Jury Prize winner Bacurau is a wild experience and well worth your time. Set in a tiny, remote village in a near-future Brazil, we're given a portrait of life within an open, tolerant community under the thumb of a distant but powerful mayor, and shortly after the funeral of one of the town's elders, things start going awry. To say more would be to spoil the surprises, and we encourage you to check the film out knowing as little as possible. As a fable, it's a potent piece of work - themes of political abuses, the ownership and withholding of water conferring power, and the value of community and the knowledge of history are all made manifest as Bacurau straddles its genres and provides its thrills. It's a film that's as open to interpretation as it is clear about what it thinks - its clunkiness in this respect a positive for Mike while occasionally a little overegged for José. But quibbles here and the

  • 218 - Contagion

    26/03/2020 Duración: 37min

    We may be living under lockdown conditions, but no virus can stop us, and to prove it we're taking on Steven Soderbergh's 2011 thriller Contagion, about a virus that rips through every country on Earth, the scientific work to stop it, and the social decay that it leaves in its wake. Suggested as a podcast by an irony-seeking Mike, it backfires as it actually just frightens him. At least, for a while. We think about the film in the context of the COVID-19 pandemic currently upon us, of course, praising what we recognise in the film's imagined crisis, remarking upon the differences. Much of what it depicts feels very true to life, and it strongly evokes panic and a sense of uncertainty; on the other hand, the difference less than a decade makes is thrown into sharp relief with the film's essentially competent and well-intentioned government response to the disease, a far cry from the lies and bluster being spouted by certain American presidents today - something that would have been not only unimaginable but l

  • 217 - Portrait of a Lady on Fire

    10/03/2020 Duración: 26min

    A delicate, intelligent love story, Céline Sciamma's Portrait of a Lady on Fire undulates with complex, interlocking themes and emotions. It's a film about looking: who looks, who is looked at, how one should be seen, for whom the gaze is intended and what the rules are. Héloïse, a young aristocrat, refuses to have her portrait painted for the approval of a Milanese nobleman; an artist named Marianne is commissioned to do just that, but in secret, forcing her to steal glances at her subject and, outwardly, act merely as her companion. The women's relationship quickly develops, and soon they are collaborating on the portrait to which Héloïse had hitherto objected. Sciamma demonstrates an eye for beautiful, sensitive composition, and with cinematographer Claire Mathon creates some simply stunning imagery, evoking 18th and 19th century Romantic art; truly, this film understands what it means to paint with light. We consider the differences between the characters: one formerly resident in a convent, brought home

  • 216 - Dark Waters

    02/03/2020 Duración: 40min

    A legal drama about the biggest corruption scandal you've never heard of, Dark Waters tells the story of lawyer Robert Bilott's twenty year long fight to expose chemical manufacturer DuPont's decades of knowing and unapologetic poisoning of a town, a country, and the entire world. Visited by a West Virginian farmer named Wilbur Tennant, whose livestock are falling prey to unusual medical conditions and dying, Bilott - a corporate lawyer who works to help DuPont pollute within the law - files a lawsuit, and slowly begins to uncover the company's secrets. For José, it's a film that fits neatly amongst director Todd Haynes' previous work, which often focuses on power relations and the struggles of the oppressed, sidelined or disenfranchised. For Mike, it might be a new Spotlight, another film about the exposure of vast, historical, institutional wrongdoing. But don't believe the trailer that makes it look all blood and thunder - Dark Waters, though compelling and dramatic, is a slow burner, methodical and caref

  • 215 - Queen & Slim

    24/02/2020 Duración: 35min

    An assured debut feature from director Melina Matsoukas, Queen & Slim is a romantic, fugitive road movie with a state-of-the-nation feel. After an awkward first date, a traffic stop escalates out of hand, resulting in one dead police officer, shot in self defence, and two black civilians on the run. Their escape sees them take a tour through Ohio, Kentucky, Louisiana and Florida, their public profile growing, their actions inspiring both admiration and dismay amongst those they encounter. It's a confidently made film, evocative of a bygone era though set in the modern day, slow and tonally adept, with two wonderful performances from Daniel Kaluuya and Jodie Turner-Smith. We discuss whether it's a noir and Turner-Smith's unwitting femme fatale, the characters' changes of costume, the way in which a variety of music expresses different elements of black culture with the effect of unifying them, the details and suggestions that build a holistic, believable world, what effect the reveal of the characters' names

  • 214 - American Factory

    22/02/2020 Duración: 21min

    The latest winner of the Academy Award for Best Documentary Feature, Julia Reichert and Steven Bognar's American Factory is a complex and brilliant examination of a clash of cultures and management styles and the diminishment of a class of workers having to grovel for jobs they cannot do without. In 2014, the recently closed GM factory in Moraine, Ohio, was acquired and reopened by Fuyao Glass, a Chinese company; many of the former GM employees, often out of regular work since the closure in 2008, would occupy new jobs there. While the film depicts clashes between the Moraine locals and the Chinese employees flown in to supervise them, it also ensures that it doesn't accept any indulgence in xenophobia, instead showing employees of both nationalities spending leisure time together and getting along. The film is less interested in moderating the clash between the Chinese and American supervisors - a trip to a Chinese plant, intended to show the Americans how things should be done, with robotic employees, mili

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