Eavesdropping At The Movies

Ad Astra sees a withdrawn, isolated Brad Pitt take to the stars as Roy McBride, an astronaut in search of his father, and with him writer-director James Gray shows us stunning imagery and brings us brilliantly into McBride's suppressed mental state. José is head over heels in love with the film's epic feel, its exploration of universal human problems, the way in which it imagines a human race that, in spreading to and taming other planets and moons, brings its pre-existing problems with it, and the way in which Gray expresses McBride's inner turmoil through action. Mike is less keen, particularly arguing for the weakness of the film's first act, and asking questions of the film's gender theming, but finds much to love too. Ad Astra is a vast, careful, $100m art movie, the likes of which only Christopher Nolan normally gets to make. It's very much worth your time. See it on the largest screen you can. Recorded on 19th September 2019.

J-Lo runs the show and steals every scene in Hustlers, Lorene Scafaria's crime flick about a team of strippers who run a scam to steal from Wall Street traders and CEOs. Its style, energy and representational strategies impress us, it drew an audience to Cineworld that we aren't used to seeing, and we discuss how it fits into what we decide to call "state of the nation cinema", films that brazenly and deliberately depict, condemn and critique the institutions and power structures of modern America. Recorded on 18th September 2019.

A gentle, somewhat meandering podcast to follow a gentle, somewhat meandering film. Joanna Hogg's The Souvenir talks of artistic development, the vigour of youth, life without money worries, and the complications of love, all through a soft camera and subtle performances. It's a film that refers to and respects art, that remembers the past fondly, and that leads José to explain the Portuguese concept of saudade. Recorded on 17th September 2019.

Ne Zha, a Chinese animated film, holds the record for the biggest box office in a single market (having made over $700m in China), but Mike isn't that impressed with it, comparing it to the likes of Ice Age. José had a better time, though asks himself why he overlooks some of its more questionable elements, including a rather homophobic running joke that just doesn't go away. But there's a certain flair and thoughtfulness to some of its visual design and characterisation that we appreciate, and it gives us food for thought. Discussing Ne Zha leads us into a conversation about British film culture as it relates to foreign language cinema. It's not impossible to see foreign language films in Birmingham - though Ne Zha making it to Cineworld, as opposed to the Electric or mac, is notable - but outside London, the kind of culture that European and South American countries have of showing films from other countries as a matter of course in the main cinemas just doesn't exist here. In going through our list of pod

Adapted from the 1944 novel of the same name by Anna Seghers, writer-director Christian Petzold's Transit behaves to some degree like Shakespeare in modern dress. The story follows a German man, Georg (Franz Rogowski), escaping facist-occupied Paris to Marseille, and there encountering other refugees, forging connections and affections with them, making arrangements at consulates for passage and visas to Mexico and the USA, all while rumour and hearsay about the spread of the occupation to the port city hangs over him. But with markers from nearly a century later - present-day vehicles in particular, although much of the clothing lives in an ageless world that bridges the years, and an ethnic component that makes more sense in today's world than the Forties - Petzold turns a historical narrative into a fable of creeping fascism and the refugee crisis of today. Indeed, the idea that Transit functions like modern-dress Shakespeare might make it sound terribly stilted and artificial, but the real power of Transi

Following 2017's It, the characters are 27 years older, the events of the first film mere memories, and the effects are more thrilling than ever. But it leaves us feeling much the same as its predecessor - despite fantastic production values, wonderful monster design, and attempts to delve into interesting themes of trauma and the scars with which it leaves us, it's, well, kind of stupid really. Recorded on 12th September 2019.

Considered by some to be his best film, Alfred Hitchcock's Notorious comes to the mac in a beautiful 4k restoration. We explore its sumptuous close-ups, complex characterisation and smart, effective editing, which elicited big responses from the audience, and José tells us about Ben Hecht, the film's screenwriter. We also have an argument about focus pulling. On the blog, we've posted a number of clips and screenshots of moments and scenes to which we refer in the podcast: http://eavesdroppingatthemovies.com/2019/09/11/167-notorious/ Recorded on 8th September 2019.

It's probably fair to say that Pedro Almodóvar's films seem to be made specifically for José. It's in every detail: the locations, eras, sexuality, ways of life, attitudes, class, love of cinema and countless other aspects of Almodóvar's ouevre speak to José on a deep, intimate level. He's watched every one of his films time and time again, and he considers Pain and Glory, which he has already seen twice and plans to see again, a masterpiece. Mike doesn't have anything like such a specific relationship to Almodóvar, and indeed has only seen one other of his films, 2016's Julieta, which he liked very much - and indeed he likes Pain and Glory just as much... though not quite as much as José. We discuss how Pain and Glory stands alone but might benefit from being seen in relation to Almodóvar's ouevre. Several of his regular collaborators appear, including Cecilia Roth, Antonio Banderas, Julieta Serrano and Penélope Cruz; this film, as with The Law of Desire, Broken Embraces and Bad Education, is about a filmma

There's a remarkable female gaze in Animals, Sophie Hyde's adaptation of Emma Jane Unsworth's novel, and a wonderful sense of insightful observation in the world occupied by and behaviours of the two friends whose stories it tells. Mike, who'd been anticipating it keenly since seeing the trailer, feels a little shortchanged by the triteness of the larger themes on which the film builds and the relative lack of excitement in comparison to what the trailer conveyed. José shares a little of that feeling but is keen to express his pleasure at seeing a film so confidently and originally expressive of a female perspective, particularly in its sex scenes. And we both adore the stars, Alia Shawkat for her fabulously performative comic theatrics, and especially Holliday Grainger for her extraordinary, sensitive, soulful expression of a girl falling in and out of love and friendship and upset with her own failings. Animals is a film that explodes with creativity and expressiveness in the details, but whose big pictur

Mike has seen 2019's remake of The Lion King, and it sends him into a state of deep woe. José hasn't, and is glad Mike took the bullet for him. Recorded on 19th August 2019.

Mike feared it might be the most tasteless film ever made. José doesn't look forward to Quentin Tarantino films. But we both came away from this fantastical reimagining of a near-mythological era of Hollywood history having had a great time. Tellingly, for a film that exceeds two and a half hours, we both felt the time fly by. Tarantino's love for and expert knowledge of Hollywood and cinema informs all of his work, and arguably not that consequentially - he cribs shots, pastiches genres, and evokes styles and tones specific to cinema, but to debatable significant effect beyond the superficial. But in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood (OUATIH for brevity's sake), the decision to bring this passion to the surface and tell a story directly about Hollywood results in Tarantino's most meaningful and personal film. What he values is brazenly displayed here, and, Mike suggests, isn't entirely pleasant to examine. He finds OUATIH initially troubling in this regard - with a day's reflection on it, he comes to see it as

Fast & Furious Presents: Hobbs & Shaw. If there's a clunkier title out there, we'd like to see it. The first standalone film in the Fast & Furious series, and the first Mike's seen at all, while José gave up some years ago, after seeing the first two. But José liked the trailer, and coerced Mike into accompanying him, which means that Mike now gets to force José to do something he doesn't want to one day. But, with expectations at an all-time low, Mike can confirm that he, in his words, "did not hate it". In fact, despite it being obvious trash, with an entire family of awful, lazy jokes - the extended metaphors and puerile insults that The Rock and Jason Statham trade are comedy sinkholes - there's quite a lot that charms us here. While Mike argues for the creativity and execution of the film's action, José expounds upon his fondness for its stars, on the one hand through the humour and enthusiasm of The Rock, who Mike (who writes these descriptions) refuses to call Dwayne Johnson; on the other, Statham's w

Cold Weather is a mumblecore crime thriller, if it is indeed possible to conceive of such a thing, which it must be, because Cold Weather is one. Gentle, leisurely, and with a close focus on character relationships and foibles, it's a pleasant and surprisingly engrossing film, more evidence of the reliability of MUBI's curation. Never has a brother-sister amateur detective duo been so laid back. José has issues with the ending, Mike has an issue with the crime story, but neither takes issue with the film's strength: its characters' relationships. Whether between adversarial brother and sister, amicable exes, or newly bonding buddies, these are smartly observed and efficiently rendered, and the film relishes moments such as a familial debate over who gets to drive, and a detour in which a character hopes that taking up pipe smoking will allow him to think like Sherlock Holmes. With the exception of some self-consciously 'art filmy' shot choices, the film is well directed by Aaron Katz, who maintains a precise

The Matrix, the Wachowskis' groundbreaking, iconic sci-fi, is twenty years old this year, and we catch a one-off screening of its 4K restoration. Mike can't believe he's old enough for a film he watched as a kid to have a restoration, but this is the world we live in. Or is it? Well, what an experience The Matrix remains. None of its pleasures have diminished with time, and with the benefit of the years that have passed since its initial release, we see it with fresh eyes. Mike looks at it as part of a late-90s cyberpunk/rave culture era that acts like a time capsule, comparing it to films such as eXistenZ, The Beach, and Johnny Mnemonic, films born of the same culture and dealing with similar philosophical themes, and asking why only The Matrix has stood the test of time. José notes how the film is a product of its time in terms of technology - landline phones are not only everywhere but have plot functions, the computers are large and clunky, the text they display neon green. We remark upon the film's slo

We're still with MUBI and grateful for the opportunity to see O Fantasma, directed by João Pedro Rodrigues: a film José had heard of and been encouraged to see by various friends, but hadn't quite come his way until now. He thought the film was only a few years old and could now kick himself for having waited twenty years to see it. José thinks it a masterpiece, Mike doesn't; though the film being clearly aimed at a gay male audience might help account for it, and it speaks to José deeply. Following Sergio (Ricardo Meneses), a very handsome young garbageman in Lisbon, perpetually horny and on the hunt for sex, O Fantasma is feverish sex dream of a film, a reverie, that evokes the feeling of horniness, of being up for sex but having no one with whom to find release with. What starts as a hunt that eventually turns the hunter into the hunted. We discuss how the character of Sergio seems to have no filter and no fear. He lives in a homophobic culture fraught with danger but is free. The sexual situations seem t

Pickings are slim at the cinema at the moment, so it's MUBI to the rescue. We chose Border almost at random, our criteria being only something that looked interesting and would still be on rotation by the time we released the podcast. And what a fascinating film we picked. Border is a Swedish art film that reeks of mud, pain and isolation, but with a sense of fantasy and irony that render it a curious, surprisingly light affair, despite some gruesome imagery and dark plot developments. It gives us a lot to talk about: the interstices of ideas of gender, place, what it is to be human, how we categorise ourselves, what makes us behave towards others as we do. The film takes a figure of fairy tale, fantasy, and horror, placing it in a contemporary setting. It supports all kinds of interesting interpretations: as a racial narrative, as a trans narrative, as an exploration of nature vs. nature, as a dramatisation of the fluidity of 'the self'. It opens up beautifully as we discuss it. Recorded on 29th July 2019.

Following a break during which José has been exploring Argentina and Mike has been exploring John Grisham films, we reconvene with Toy Story 4, the latest in Pixar's iconic animated children's series. Mike's seen it once already and is keen to revisit it. José asks questions of the film's messages, seeing the toys as faithful slaves, desperate for owners, and discarded once their value is exhausted. Mike argues for the characters' internal lives and the idea that they are parents or stewards of their children. We at least agree on the Key and Peele characters, thoughtless and lazy stereotypes of blackness, and Mike suggests that the irony that Key and Peele bring to their personas might be intended to make their characters easier to swallow. And their characters have the effect of rendering in sharp focus everything that is white about the film, José picking up on what he sees a tokenism in the few human non-white or mixed race characters present. Toy Story 4 finally makes something of Bo Peep, turning her

José returns from a week at Il Cinema Ritrovato in Bologna, just in time to see Venice crumble in Spider-Man: Far From Home, the latest injection of plot development to the Marvel series. It hits him in the gut and the film doesn't recover, José seeing a lack of respect and intelligence that colours the entire experience for him. Mike, on the other hand, doesn't particularly care for buildings, and finds a lot to like, including one of the more interesting villains Marvel has offered, one that self-referentially comments on image-making and the expanding chasm between what the public is shown and what is actually happening, and a setting - a school trip across Europe - that provides a way for the competing parts of Peter Parker's life to interfere dramatically. There's much up for debate, our experiences differing severely. Two things we can agree on: it isn't particularly well shot, and Tom Holland's performance soars. Comme ci, comme ça, as they say in Europe. Recorded on 3rd July 2019.

Following his critically acclaimed documentaries about Formula One legend Aryton Senna and troubled jazz singer Amy Winehouse, Asif Kapadia turns his inquisitive lens to Diego Maradona, arguably the greatest footballer of all time, and a man who moved rapidly from the slums of Buenos Aires to worldwide fame, winning the World Cup with Argentina and leading declining Italian club Napoli to two league championships. Kapadia's film beautifully and economically tells his story, making understandable and human the dark side that accompanies the success, including an illegitimate son, his infamous addiction to cocaine, and perhaps less well-known, his association with the Camorra, the Neapolitan crime syndicate. Mike has never really "got" these kinds of documentaries, and José is more than happy to oblige him with his impressions of what they do, and in particular what this one does so well. It is not just about the man but about the times, places, people and cultures that were the environment of his life. Marado

A horror movie that cleverly inverts one or two tropes of the genre, we ultimately feel Ma is less than the sum of its parts, but worth a look nonetheless. Director Tate Taylor is clearly very good with actors, and every performance here is pitched well, but he doesn't have such an aptitude for building tension or developing psychological creepiness. The writing doesn't help him - while Mike insists that the film's premise is full of potential, it's not built upon very successfully. But Octavia Spencer is brilliant as the central villain, eliciting laughs and jumps at will, and her Ma is an engrossing character, if a bit reliant on cliché. José points out the film's concentration on women, male characters being secondary, and its interesting inversions of gender tropes, in particular a very male gaze: the objects of desire, men are disrobed and splayed out for Ma's pleasure, and the camera doesn't shy away from displaying them. Unfortunately, the film seems to have aimed for its 15 rating, sometimes appeari