Dreamcatchers

What if the very mindset that built your success is now the thing keeping you stuck? In this episode, Jerome Myers, America’s Leading Exit Authority, breaks down the five most common objections founders tell themselves after exiting their businesses and reveals what they truly are: fear wearing logic’s clothes. From waiting for clarity to fearing the wrong move, Jerome reframes each belief and shares how to move from hesitation to evolution. If you’ve built your empire and now find yourself wondering what’s next, this episode is your mirror, not your map for rediscovering meaning and momentum beyond the business. [00:00 – 01:00] The Portal Beyond the Exit Exiting isn’t the end — it’s the beginning of personal evolution Control and certainty no longer serve this new chapter The Founder’s Exit Paradox: the same habits that brought success now create stagnation [01:00 – 02:00] Objection #1: “I Just Need More Clarity” “I need clarity” is often avoidance disguised as prudence Move

Most founders chase the exit as if it’s the ultimate destination. But what happens when the deal closes and you’re left asking, "Who am I without my business?" In this crossover episode from The Amazing Marketing Show, Jerome Myers joins hosts Dmitri Smirnov and Chris Gray to reveal why 75 percent of business owners regret selling their companies, and what the other 25 percent did differently. Jerome shares hard-won wisdom on exit readiness, identity, purpose, and redefining wealth beyond money. He invites listeners to see freedom not as walking away from something, but as stepping into the next meaningful chapter. 00:00 – 04:15 The Reality Behind Business Exits Only 25% of founders who sell their company feel no regret Success without purpose can lead to depression, not freedom True exit readiness requires planning on both financial and emotional fronts 04:16 – 09:30 Loneliness After the Exit Up to 60% of personal relationships fade after leaving a company Without intentiona

Exiting a business is never just about the deal, it’s about who you become on the other side. In this episode, Jerome Myers, America’s Leading Exit Authority, explores the unseen emotional and psychological realities of selling a company. From the illusion of control to the founder’s exit paradox, Jerome explains why independence can’t carry you through the transition and why trust, guidance, and proven frameworks are essential for a fulfilling next chapter.  If you’re approaching an exit, or even just thinking about it, this conversation will challenge your assumptions and invite you to prepare in a way that safeguards not only your wealth, but also your peace, relationships, and purpose. [00:00 – 01:09] Introduction to Business Exits Exits are more than transactions; they’re transformations Many founders believe they can handle the process alone Independence created success, but it can also create blind spots [01:09 – 03:06] Illusion of Control & The Trust Gap Control brings resu

You got the money. Now what? That’s the question too many founders face when the wire hits and the silence sets in. In this episode of Your Next, the mic flips, as Jeroeme sits down with JR Lay for a no-BS conversation about what really happens after you sell your business. Spoiler: it’s not champagne and sunsets. The discussion revolves around The Founder’s Exit Paradox, that sinking feeling of confusion, disconnection, and loss that arises when the work is gone, yet you're still searching for meaning and worth. This is for every visionary who built a mountain, reached the top, and thought, “Is this it?” Jerome shares his raw, personal journey through post-exit chaos, identity unraveling, and the scars that success leaves behind, and how he helps other high-achieving founders find meaning after the money. If you’re building toward an exit, don’t just listen to this episode; study it. [00:00 – 12:00] Time Over Money Why tracking days off beats tracking dollars The hidden cost of chasing success

Selling your business won’t save you if you’re not ready for what comes after, and most founders aren’t. Less than 1% of women founders successfully exit their businesses. That story is changing, and Carrie Kerpen is leading the movement. In this episode of Your Next, I sit down with Carrie Kerpen, founder of The Whisper Group and a successful agency exit veteran, to explore how women are rewriting the rules of business, building companies designed to sell, and creating exits that unlock freedom, legacy, and purpose. We go deep into the reality of life after a big sale: the loss of identity, the challenges of integration, and the path to reclaiming power on your own terms. If you’ve ever wondered what happens after the wire hits, this conversation will change how you think about exits. Press play now, and step into the conversation that could redefine how you see your next chapter. [00:00 – 12:00] The Agency and the Exit Carrie’s journey from co-founding Likable to an 8-figure exit How Built

You planned the deal. You closed the transaction. Everyone’s congratulating you. But then... silence. In this revealing solo episode, Jerome Myers explores the Founder’s Exit Paradox, that unexpected disconnect between financial success and emotional fulfillment. Through real stories and powerful insights, Jerome shares why so many high-performing founders regret their exits and what you can do to avoid that fate. If you’ve sold your business or are planning to, this episode offers the roadmap to reclaim clarity, purpose, and peace on the other side. Tune in now to discover what you really need to prepare for, before, during, and after the exit. [00:00 – 02:00] The Regret No One Talks About 75% of founders regret their exit Why selling your business is more than just a financial move The Exit Paradox explained [02:01 – 04:45] Four Founders, Same Pattern James, Sarah, David, and Maria: different exits, same emotional fallout What financial success can't fix How identity, relatio

You sold it. You won. So why does it still feel hollow? In this deeply emotional and life-changing solo episode, Jerome Myers dismantles one of the most seductive lies in high performance: “I’ll be happy when…” Through the raw and revealing story of James, a founder who reached the summit only to find it silent, Jerome explores the emotional collapse that often follows external success. This isn’t just about exits. It’s about identity, meaning, and the quiet ache of disconnection. This episode is your invitation to pause, reflect, and realign. If you've ever said, “I’ll be happy when…” this conversation will challenge everything you thought you knew about success and might just change your life. [00:00 – 03:00] The Happiness Horizon Trap “I’ll be happy when…”  -  the emotional illusion Why milestone-chasing masks deeper emptiness The horizon always moves until you stop chasing [03:01 – 06:30] The Exit Paradox in Action Why freedom often feels like invisibility The emotional fallout a

Wealth fades. Legacy endures when it’s rooted in more than money. In this episode, Jerome Myers sits down with Charlie Garcia, a West Point graduate, decorated combat veteran, entrepreneur, and managing member of R360, one of the world’s most exclusive communities of ultra-successful families. Charlie introduces the F.I.S.H.E.S. Framework (Financial, Intellectual, Social, Human, Emotional, and Spiritual capital), a guide for shaping a legacy that goes beyond accumulation into alignment and impact. From his military discipline to global philanthropy and the creation of R360, Charlie reveals why true wealth is measured not in what you keep, but in what you give, nurture, and leave behind. Tune in now to learn how to move from business owner to Legacy Builder. [00:00 – 12:00] Introducing Charlie Garcia & the F.I.S.H.E.S. Framework Charlie’s journey from military service to entrepreneurship and leadership at R360 The six forms of capital that shape a flourishing life Why legacy is about ali

The greatest risk to your business exit is relational. When you exit your business, it’s not just a transaction. It is an emotional shift that can ripple through your marriage, your family, and your identity. In this episode, Jerome Myers speaks with Ruschelle Khanna, psychotherapist and author of Inherited Trauma and Family Wealth, about the emotional complexity of exiting a business and why unspoken dynamics can quietly sabotage even the best-laid plans. Listen now to discover how to protect both your legacy and your relationships. [00:00 – 13:00] Exit as Emotional Death Why a business exit mirrors grief and identity loss Common signs of resistance: sabotage, denial, and clinging to control The emotional weight on both the exiting founder and the heir [13:01 – 26:00] Marriage, Misalignment, and Mutual Resentment How exits reveal cracks in communication and shared meaning What Gottman’s 7 Principles reveal about post-exit stress Why many spouses feel excluded, even when they say t

The biggest threat to your family business is the unspoken tension inside your family. Jerome Myers talks with Amy Wirtz, senior consultant at The Family Business Consulting Group and Exit Planner of the Year, about navigating family succession with clarity and compassion. With deep experience as a lawyer, mediator, and strategist, Amy offers real-world wisdom for business owners struggling to pass the torch without burning bridges. Listen now for frameworks that demystify legacy, reveal blind spots, and offer new ways forward. [00:00 – 12:00] Family Businesses Aren’t Broken Why family businesses matter more than you think The emotional dream behind succession What sparks (and delays) transition planning Owners think about it long before they talk about it Outside advisors often prompt the first move [12:01 – 24:00] Power, Voice, and Money Ownership is power Equal shares ≠ equal results Gifting vs earning the business Who gets to vote, who gets a say When silence c

What happens when the finish line finally arrives, only to leave you asking, What now? Jerome Myers talks with Tad Fallows, founder of Long Angle, about building and selling a company on his terms and the surprising challenges of life after the deal. They reveal the truth about “work optional” wealth, finding meaning beyond money, and what comes after you win. Listen now to uncover life after success. [00:00 – 12:00] From Harvard to High Growth Tad’s unconventional path from Ivy League to McKinsey to co-founding a SaaS company in an unlikely market Why early success is more about relationships than résumés How bootstrapping through the 2008 downturn shaped his approach to risk [12:01 – 24:00] Scaling Without Selling Out Growing 40–50% every year without venture capital Why an unsolicited offer wasn’t enough to pull the trigger How a year of preparation expanded their market story and increased exit value [24:01 – 36:00] The Exit on His Terms Choosing the rig

You built it. You exited. Now what? In this raw and revelatory solo episode, Jerome Myers introduces the Founder’s Trauma Tree:  a framework that exposes the emotional crash most Apex performers aren’t prepared for after the exit. Through the real-life story of James, a founder who spiraled into anxiety six months after his 8-figure win, Jerome reveals why success doesn't silence inner wounds; it amplifies them. And more importantly, how you can begin to heal. There’s a story beneath your success:  one about pressure, pain, and the parts of you that never got to breathe. This is where healing begins. Success checked every box, but something still feels off? This is the conversation that explains why. [00:00 – 04:30] When Success Feels Like Collapse The post-exit silence no one prepares you for Why founders often mistake trauma symptoms for personality Introducing the Founder’s Exit Paradox [04:31 – 08:00] The Founder’s Trauma Tree PTSD, anxiety, addiction: what lies beneath

What happens when the success you’ve chased your whole life finally shows up, and it doesn’t feel like enough? In this thought-provoking episode, Jerome Myers talks with Calvin Correli, founder of Simplero and long-time spiritual explorer, about what comes after the exit. They talk through the emotional crash that can follow financial success, why most people are secretly afraid of feeling safe, and how founders can stop waiting for money to permit them to feel fulfilled. This episode is about more than business. It’s about learning how to live well, right now. Listen in and start rewriting the story you’ve been living by. [00:00 – 12:00] The $300M Moment That Didn’t Fix Anything The email that started it all: a founder with a $300M offer and deep unhappiness Why the usual playbook of success stops working after a big win How entrepreneurship often reflects our search for something deeper [12:01 – 24:00] Hidden Fears and Emotional Shortcuts Why do people put off feeling the w

Most high achievers are dangerously unprepared for life after the exit. In this revealing episode, Jerome Myers sits down with Dr. Michelle Fritsch, a board-certified geriatric pharmacist and founder of Propel Your Wellness, to discuss the hidden dangers that follow success. From loss of identity to relationship breakdowns and rapid health decline, Dr. Fritsch exposes what happens after the business card disappears, and what you can do to prevent it. If you think your freedom phase will last forever, think again.  Tune in now to learn how to design a life of wellness, purpose, and clarity beyond the exit. [00:00 – 12:00] Freedom Doesn’t Last Forever Why most people hit a wall 6–12 months after their exit The false security of hobbies, travel, and to-do lists Preventable reasons brilliant people fade after retirement [12:01 – 24:00] The Dangerous Assumptions We Carry Why doctors don’t know as much about you as you think The unexpected collapse of key relationships

Not every “no” sounds like a no. Some sound like “I need to talk to my advisor” or “I’m just tired.”  In this eye-opening solo episode, Jerome Myers peels back the polite excuses founders often give and gets real about the resistance that’s quietly keeping you stuck. If you've ever hovered over the “Book the Intensive” button or convinced yourself now’s not the right time, this episode holds up a mirror and asks: Are you willing to stop circling the life you want and finally step into it? If you’re looking for clarity, this is your moment. [00:00 – 02:00] Sitting in the Gray Space Why founders pause at the edge of transformation Understanding indecision as quiet resistance What keeps people hovering without action [02:01 – 04:00] Common Objections That Mask Fear Avoiding action by blaming timing Doubting the process will work Deferring the decision to others [04:01 – 06:30] What’s Going On Avoiding stillness to escape deeper truths Relying on

Your most meaningful moments begin after the exit. In this deeply personal solo episode, Jerome Myers reflects on the first half of 2025, not just what was accomplished, but what was transformed. Through unexpected moments of presence and alignment, he shares what life looks like when success is no longer the goal, but the foundation for something more. Whether you’re post-exit or preparing for one, this episode offers a rare, honest look at what comes next. [00:00 – 03:30] From Metrics to Meaning Reflecting on accomplishments beyond the surface Reframing the scoreboard of success Choosing alignment over endless achievement [03:31 – 06:30] The Silence After Success Confronting stillness after the summit Understanding the Founder’s Exit Paradox Beginning the inner work of reinvention [06:31 – 09:30] Moments That Redefine You Family milestones and legacy in action Letting joy lead through travel and play Finding aliveness through presence, not performance [09:31 –

Why do successful founders disappear when they're on the edge of true personal growth? In this powerful solo episode, Jerome Myers unpacks the fear that holds many high achievers back, not fear of failure, but fear of being seen. He explores how achievement can become emotional armor and what it really takes to step into purpose after the exit. If you’ve ever felt lost after success, this episode offers the clarity, courage, and next steps you need. Listen now and start your next chapter with intention. [00:00 – 03:00] You Are Not Broken, You Are in Transition The internal calling beyond success The NEO Assessment as a personal mirror Starting the journey into clarity [03:01 – 07:00] The Hidden Side of the Exit Paradox Why founders disappear after success The moment when identity begins to unravel Fear disguised as logic and timing [07:01 – 10:00] When Identity Becomes Armor Achievement as emotional protection The illusion of fulfillment through productivity

What happens when the check clears, and you still feel empty? In this powerful episode, Jerome Myers talks with Rick Martinez, a former ER nurse, Army officer, and founder who scaled a 600-person healthcare company and exited successfully, only to face an identity crisis no one warned him about. From ER shifts to military deployment to crying in his car after a $500K payday, Rick shares what happens after the win and why fulfillment matters more than freedom. If you’ve ever asked, “Is this all there is?”, this episode is for you. [00:00 – 12:00] Still in Scrubs: The Entrepreneur Who Kept Showing Up Why Rick still picks up ER shifts decades into success His transition from staff nurse to contractor to employer How one conversation in a hospital skybridge launched a business [12:01 – 21:00] Building Something Bigger (Without Realizing It) From $8/hour raises to doubling his income overnight Creating an agency by accident and growing to 600 employees The systems that scaled withou

What if trauma isn’t just in your head, but in your cells, your gut, your immune system? In this electrifying conversation, Jerome Myers is joined by Dr. Don Wood, the founder of the Inspired Performance Institute and creator of TIPP, a neuroscience-based program for trauma resolution. What begins as a deeply personal story about saving his daughter’s life turns into a profound revelation: most of what we treat with pills could be solved by healing the mind. If you’ve ever been told to just “manage” your anxiety, stress, or diagnosis, this episode is your wake-up call. [00:00 – 12:00] Trauma Is the Root, Not the Symptom “Medication is like giving tissue for a runny nose, what caused it?” Trauma often underlies anxiety, addiction, and even autoimmune disease Dr. Wood’s daughter's Crohn’s and lung disorder stemmed from childhood trauma, not just biology [12:01 – 22:00] The Brain Isn’t Broken, It’s Protecting You The subconscious runs 95% of your daily life and doesn’t unde

What happens after the founder exits? Too often, regret, confusion, and loss of identity. In this powerful session from the Exit Planning Institute, Jerome Myers delivers a wake-up call:  most exit plans ignore the human element. While others focus on finances and operations, Jerome highlights the missing pillar: personal planning. Press play and rethink what it means to exit with excellence. [00:00 – 12:00] Exit is Inevitable, But Fulfillment is Not 100% of founders will exit: “Sell it, give it away, or close it.” Most advisors ignore personal planning, but it’s what leads to regret “The stool wobbles without the third leg. We’re building incomplete exits.” [12:01 – 25:00] The Founder’s Exit Paradox The paradox: rich and free, but lost “They decouple their identity from the business and enter a void.” Common regrets: loss of purpose, isolation, status drop, boredom Why does money only solve 2 of the 5 levels in Maslow’s hierarchy [25:01 – 38:00] Six Centers of Doubt: The