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In this Gartner Talent Angle podcast, Marcela Escobari shares key metrics about job quality, economic mobility and job equity. While organizations are facing labor shortages in the short term, Escobari argues that there’s been a long-term decline in job quality. She explains how churn in low-wage jobs is expensive for organizations, but low-wage employees often lack “stepping stone” opportunities to advance their careers. Marcela Escobari is the current Assistant Administrator for Latin America and the Caribbean at the U.S. Agency for International Development. At the time of this recording, she was a senior fellow in the Center for Sustainable Development, housed in the Global Economy and Development program at Brookings, where she led the Workforce of the Future initiative. *This episode is an excerpt taken from our 2022 interview.

Three-fourths of HR leaders agree they will be lagging in organizational success if they do not adopt and implement generative AI (GenAI) in the next 12 to 24 months. However, GenAI’s long-term impact on jobs is yet to be determined, and as a result, organizations must prepare for multiple scenarios as they engage in workforce planning and adopt GenAI to their unique context. In this episode of the Talent Angle, Helen Poitevin, a distinguished vice president analyst at Gartner, shares a framework to help organizations evaluate the context-specific workforce impact of GenAI by identifying the market and technology drivers that matter for talent decisions. This Gartner model will help HR leaders establish workforce strategies as they align technology and business investments with talent implications. Helen Poitevin is a distinguished VP analyst with a focus on human capital management (HCM) technologies and advising clients on their HCM technology strategies. In HCM, areas of particular focus include talent ana

In her book “The Burnout Epidemic: The Rise of Chronic Stress and How We Can Fix It,” Jennifer Moss implores organizations to design burnout strategies that move beyond apps, wellness programs and perks. Instead, she makes the case for a systematic and preventative approach to building an anti-burnout strategy. To do so, organizations must first understand the key drivers of burnout, why conventional approaches fall short and how leaders can build cultures that prioritize workforce resilience and health. Jennifer Moss is an award-winning journalist, author and international public speaker. She is a nationally syndicated radio columnist and writes for Harvard Business Review. Her first book, “Unlocking Happiness at Work,” received the distinguished UK Business Book of the Year Award. Jennifer has been named a Canadian Innovator of the Year, an International Female Entrepreneur of the Year, and was a recipient of the Public Service Award from the Office of President Obama. *This episode is an excerpt taken from

Netta Jenkins, author of “The Inclusive Organization,” suggests that while organizations have made advances in DEI in recent years, political polarization and economic uncertainty have threatened to undo that progress. Jenkins joins the Gartner Talent Angle to share her advice on the current state of the DEI movement, and she charts a path forward for HR leaders. She unpacks her three “P” framework — people, practices and products — detailing how each “P” is essential to moving DEI forward within organizations. During the conversation, Jenkins also describes the often unrealistically high expectations put on DEI leaders to transform the organization, despite limited funding and staffing. Netta Jenkins is a doctoral student and author of “The Inclusive Organization,” listed by Forbes as one of the Top 4 DEI books to read. She is CEO of AeroDEI, a DEI tool that helps organizations measure and quantify the impact of their DEI initiatives through gamifying the experience for employees. Jenkins has been advising c

Harvard Business School professor Joseph Fuller joins the Gartner Talent Angle podcast to share the latest insights from his white paper, “Hidden Talent: Untapped Talent.” Fuller explains why fitting candidates are  consistently overlooked by recruiting technology. He shares solutions for uncovering these workers, and argues why senior leaders play a critical role in ensuring the success of the hidden talent pipeline. Joseph Fuller is a Professor of Management Practice in General Management at Harvard Business School and co-leads the school’s initiative, Managing the Future of Work. He graduated from Harvard Business School in 1981 and founded the consulting firm, Monitor Group, now Monitor-Deloitte. During his three decades in consulting, Fuller worked with senior executives and policymakers on a wide variety of issues related to corporate strategy and national competitiveness. *This episode is an excerpt taken from our 2022 interview.

Patrick McLaughlin, PepsiCo Foods North America CHRO, joined the Talent Angle at Evanta’s 2023 Dallas CHRO Executive Summit in June to reflect on what he refers to as “the inversion of the labor market.” For the first time, there are more jobs than people to fill them. HR leaders are charged with retaining and engaging the frontline workforce amid changing employee expectations and a competitive talent landscape. Patrick offers his perspective on current workforce trends, reflects on lessons learned in recent years and identifies opportunities for organizations to improve the employee experience for frontline workers. Patrick McLaughlin is senior vice president and chief HR officer for PepsiCo Foods North America, an operating division of PepsiCo. He is a 27-year veteran of PepsiCo with a broad range of leadership experience in beverages and foods. Before joining PepsiCo, Patrick worked for Exxon USA based in New Orleans, Louisiana. Patrick holds bachelor’s and master’s degrees in organizational communication

In his book, “The Human Element: Overcoming the Resistance that Awaits New Ideas,” Kellogg professor David Schonthal challenges the default assumption that selling an idea requires the seller to heighten its appeal. Instead, he makes the case that failure to adopt ideas, strategies or products is often due to the four key psychological frictions that oppose change: inertia, effort, emotion and reactance. He argues that successful leaders and innovators must identify, understand and overcome these to achieve novel outcomes. David Schonthal is a clinical professor of innovation and entrepreneurship at Northwestern University’s Kellogg School of Management, where he teaches courses in new venture creation, design thinking, business acquisition, corporate innovation and creativity. He also serves as the faculty director of Kellogg’s Zell Fellows Program. Outside of the Kellogg School of Management, David is a senior director of business design at IDEO, where he focuses on helping organizations build and launch ne

Mid-level managers are sandwiched between pressure from business leaders to retain employees and rising employee expectations for personalized support and communication. In this Talent Angle episode, former Kimberly-Clark CHRO and member of Gartner’s CHRO Global Leadership Board Liz Gottung encourages organizations to rethink their expectations for mid-level managers or risk losing these critical managers to burnout and fatigue. She suggests organizations use technology and rethink role design to free manager capacity for more high-impact work. After a 35-year career with Kimberly-Clark, Lizanne (Liz) Gottung retired as senior vice president and chief HR officer in 2017. At the time, Kimberly-Clark was a $20 billion global company with nearly 45,000 employees in more than 63 countries. Under her leadership, Kimberly-Clark’s talent strategies were widely recognized for excellence and innovation in HR management, winning multiple global awards for diversity, equity and inclusion; succession and development prac

In this Gartner Talent Angle episode, author and banker Jeff Korzenik shares insights about the second-chance talent pool—that is, reemploying candidates with criminal records. He offers practical advice on tapping into non-traditional sources of talent by  differentiating between felony types, partnering with nonprofits and reevaluating legacy talent policies and processes. Jeff Korzenik is Chief Investment Strategist for Fifth Third Bank, one of the nation’s largest banks. He is the author of the book “Untapped Talent: How Second-Chance Hiring Works for Your Business and the Community” on the business case and best practices for hiring people with criminal records. *This episode is an excerpt taken from our 2021 interview.

HR leaders are still experimenting with ways to support collaboration, connectivity and performance in response to a transforming global work environment. Martha Delehanty, Chief People Officer at Commvault, joins the Talent Angle and shares insights on how to equip employees for ongoing success to help leaders sustain high performance across the organization. She identifies the opportunities and challenges brought on by shifts in the nature of knowledge work. Martha explains how one-size-fits-all approaches can fail to unlock true capacity expansion and discusses habits HR leaders can adopt to declutter work at their organization. Martha Delehanty is the Chief People Officer of Commvault. Martha uses her decades of human resources experience at Verizon Operations and Verizon Wireless to guide and coach Commvault team members to build fantastic, life-changing careers — all while helping ensure that Commvault is a naturally relevant contributor to customers’ value chain. Martha earned her bachelor’s degree in

The mandate for and position of HR have evolved since the COVID-19 pandemic began, and these trends are only accelerated by continually shifting employee expectations. Lynanne Kunkel, chief HR officer (CHRO) of Vail Resorts and member of Gartner’s CHRO Global Leadership Board, shares her vision for how the HR function can strive for excellence while facing ongoing pressures in this new environment. She urges HR functions to develop capabilities like change leadership and human-centered experience design. She also discusses how HR can engage with other business leaders to become more integrated and aligned to strategic business outcomes. Lynanne Kunkel is the CHRO for Vail Resorts. Prior to joining Vail Resorts in 2017, Lynanne served in various executive positions for Whirlpool, most recently as senior vice president of global HR. Throughout her career, she has led all aspects of HR to deliver enhanced business performance in areas that include business HR, talent acquisition, talent management, leadership de

Mark C. Crowley joins the Gartner Talent Angle to discuss why today’s unparalleled workplace challenges prompted him to release a second edition of his book, “Lead from the Heart: Transformational Leadership for the 21st Century” more than a decade after it was first published. Backed by scientific findings on employee motivation, Crowley outlines common misconceptions about leading from the heart. And drawing on examples from his own experience, he shares practical advice for how to effectively implement this type of leadership at an organization. Mark C. Crowley is the author of “Lead From The Heart: Transformational Leadership For The 21st Century.” The second edition debuted in August 2022 as an “Amazon #1 Release,” and his book has been taught in nine American universities. Mark is a regular columnist for Fast Company Magazine and has been published in USA Today, Reuters, Forbes, the Stanford Social Innovation Review, the Huffington Post, Gallup & the Seattle Times. Mark spent over 20 years in the wo

As many organizations struggle to keep pace with technological innovations, digital transformation is a top priority. Gerald Kane, professor of information systems at the University of Georgia’s Terry College of Business, joins the Gartner Talent Angle to explore the opportunities these digital disruptions create and to inspire HR leaders to approach digital transformation with confidence. He explains how people and processes, not just technology, are crucial to successful digital transformation, and emphasizes the need for leaders to have growth mindsets and to continually learn while building adaptability in their organizations. Dr. Gerald C. Kane is a Professor and the C. Herman and Mary Virginia Terry Chair in Business Administration at the Terry College of Business at the University of Georgia.  He researches and teaches about how companies can understand and respond to digital disruption to undergraduate, graduate, and executive education students worldwide; and he has published over 100 papers, article

While HR technology has made significant advances in the past few years, HR leaders still face challenges in delivering value to the organization through technology. Marcia Morales-Jaffe offers a path forward and shares insights from her experience as the former Chief People Officer of PayPal and World Fuel Services. Morales-Jaffe outlines how HR leaders can make the most of their technology investment and discusses the role that manager development, culture and change management play in the success of HR technology. Marcia Morales-Jaffe is a retired CHRO and Emeritus Member of the Gartner CHRO Global Leadership Board. She currently serves as Senior Advisor at McKinsey & Company’s People & Organizational Performance Practice. Until 2017, Marcia was SVP, Chief People Officer at PayPal where she played an integral role in shaping culture and advancing its transformational business vision and social mission. Peter Aykens is Chief of Research in Gartner's Human Resources practice. Mr. Aykens is responsibl

Author Caleb Gardner argues that while change has been constant for some time, organizations are still unprepared to address it. In his latest book, “No Point B: Rules for Leading Change in the New Hyper-Connected, Radically Conscious Economy,” Gardner lays out his vision for how organizations should approach change in the new environment. The founder of the consulting firm 18 Coffees joined the Gartner Talent Angle Podcast to share examples of organizations undergoing transformation, and he extols the virtues of effective communication, adaptive capability and revised assumptions. Caleb Gardner is the co-founder of innovation consulting firm 18 Coffees and author of the new book, “No Point B: Rules for Leading Change in the New Hyper-Connected, Radically Conscious Economy.” Caleb’s career has spanned from working at Edelman and Bain & Company to running U.S. President Barack Obama’s Twitter account. Caleb’s insights about building more ethical and effective companies have been featured in publications su

According to the 2020 Gartner Well-Being Benchmarking Survey, 70% of companies have introduced new well-being benefits or increased the amount of existing well-being benefits in response to the COVID-19 pandemic. To sustain momentum in developing a healthy workforce, organizations must continue to create an environment where employees value well-being. Dr. Richard Safeer, author of “A Cure for the Common Company,” joins the Talent Angle to make the case that organizations should go beyond well-being programs to create a culture of well-being. He offers practical guidance to help HR leaders establish the norms and environment that supports workforce health. Dr. Richard Safeer currently serves as the Chief Medical Director of Employee Health and Well-Being for Johns Hopkins Medicine where he leads the Healthy at Hopkins employee health and well-being strategy.  Previously, he was the Medical Director of Preventive Medicine for CareFirst BlueCross BlueShield in Baltimore, Maryland. In January 2023, with publishe

While hybrid work, new technologies and evolving skills needs are changing how work gets done, what motivates employees remains constant. Author and psychologist Ron Friedman joins the Gartner Talent Angle to share how the latest findings in behavioral psychology can be applied throughout organizations. Friedman shares insights from his books “Decoding Greatness” and “The Best Place to Work” along with examples and stories from his work as founder of ignite80. He explains how HR leaders can use the method of reverse engineering to achieve success, and he details how an intentional focus on the psychological needs of employees can unlock their highest potential. Ron Friedman is an award-winning social psychologist and the founder of ignite80, a learning and development company that teaches leaders science-based strategies for building high-performing teams. Friedman has served on the faculty of the University of Rochester, Nazareth College, and Hobart and William Smith Colleges, and is a frequent contributor t

As employees rethink the role that work has in their lives, organizations must similarly reimagine how they engage and retain employees. Author and commitment expert Joe Mull makes the case that employees do a great job when they believe they have a great job. Mull joins the Talent Angle to share insights from his book “Employalty: How to Ignite Commitment and Keep Top Talent in the New Age of Work.” He discusses how key employment value proposition (EVP) aspects such as compensation, workload and flexibility help create a destination workplace. Joe Mull is the author of three books including “No More Team Drama” and “Employalty: How to Ignite Commitment and Keep Top Talent in the New Age of Work.” He is the founder of the BossBetter Leadership Academy and hosts the popular Boss Better Now podcast. Joe has appeared as an expert in multiple media outlets including Forbes, the International Business Times, on ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, and on Good Morning America.

Ronald Schellekens, PepsiCo CHRO, and Ceree Eberly, former Coca-Cola Company chief people officer, join the Gartner Talent Angle to discuss how HR leaders can serve as role models for the business to manage through sustained uncertainty. Schellekens and Eberly share their perspectives for navigating ongoing changes to the talent landscape and preparing for long-term volatility. They draw on their experiences as HR leaders to share advice for attracting external candidates, developing a strong internal talent market and boosting employee engagement. Ronald Schellekens is Executive Vice President and Chief Human Resources Officer of PepsiCo. Ronald joined PepsiCo in 2018 and oversees the company’s global HR function, which leads talent management and acquisition, leadership development, learning and capability building, compensation and benefits, organizational effectiveness, and HR operations. Ronald and his team also partner with PepsiCo’s Sectors and business units to advance culture, as well as diversity, i

As organizations continue to face fierce competition for talent, HR leaders have upheld internal mobility as a lever to retain talent – yet only half of employees are aware of the career opportunities in their organization. In this episode of the Talent Angle, Helen Tupper illustrates how championing “squiggly careers” can deliver on the promise of internal mobility by giving employees relevant and engaging opportunities. By intentionally empowering talent to apply their skills across a diverse set of experiences, HR leaders can create meaningful careers for individuals while also serving the needs of the organization. Helen Tupper is the co-founder and CEO of Amazing If, a company with an ambition to make careers better for everyone. Together with her business partner Sarah Ellis, she is the author of two Sunday Times bestsellers The Squiggly Career  and You Coach You. Their Squiggly Careers podcast is the UKs #1 careers podcast and their TEDx talk The best career path isn’t always a straight line has over 1