The Way Out Podcast

In this rendition of The Way Out I’m overjoyed to bring you my interview with person in long term recovery and life coach Hayley Scherders. Hayley shares her journey to and through recovery to this point with us with remarkable authenticity and in extremely relatable fashion, and all along the way she sprinkles practical recovery and spiritual wisdom that we can all apply to our own recovery. One of the most enlightening of which is the wonderfully powerful idea and concept of having 5 seconds of courage in order to ignite a seismic and positive shift in our lives, such as choosing to begin our journey of recovery, or starting therapy, or giving up a counterproductive thought and/or behavior pattern, or as Hayley so eloquently stated and herself experienced, deciding to turn our past into lessons instead of life sentences. Indeed, the smallest of beginnings can mushroom into meaningful, positive and sustained change, such as reading some quit-lit, going to a recovery meeting, or listening to a powerful recove

In this edition of The Way Out I’m overjoyed to bring you my interview with person in long term recovery and founder of the creative coaching agency Liberty Empowerment and the new community Speak Toast, Keelin Conant. In accordance with the Truth in Podcasting Act of 2023, which I 100% just made up and is absolutely not a real thing, this is the last of a handful of interviews I inadvertently recorded with my super sub-par webcam microphone, so a big thank you to all ya’ll Way Out faithful for bearing with the less than stellar audio from yours truly. Despite my audio adversity, the spiritual and recovery truth that emerges as Keelin shares her journey to and through recovery is truly extraordinary. Without question one of the key truths embodied in Keelin’s story amounts to a profound and fundamental question we all must address or answer in one way or another in our Recovery Journeys: what are we willing to give up to become the person we feel called to be? This question goes back to the Hero’s Journey we’

In this rendition of The Way Out I am absolutely ecstatic to bring you what turned out to be a marvelous interview with Joi Andreoli, Author of the new book The Recovery Cycle: A Practical Guide to Loving Your Sober Life. Joi is also a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, Transactional Analysis Practitioner, Certified WANT® Communication Educator, and person in long term recovery. Many of us who have spent any time in and around recovery may have been introduced to the concept of the addiction cycle, of which there are a number of variations. For our purposes, the addiction cycle has four distinct phases starting with preoccupation and anticipation which then leads to addiction related rituals like the search for and preparation of the substance which then leads to intoxication or binging followed by the last phase which is withdrawal and negative effects like shame, guilt and remorse. Much of what we’re actively doing in Recovery is a process of replacing our addictions and counterproductive thought and b

In this rendition of The Way Out, recovery cohost extraordinaire Jason has a tremendous interview with person in long term recovery and author, Joe Booth. Joe is absolutely phenomenal in what turned out to be an extraordinary conversation between he and Jason. We find out about Joe's life, addiction and of course, his Recovery. Joe goes deep with us on the recovery program he created with the help of some college professors and some good old-fashioned research. Formerly called Class V Mind, and now newly rebranded as Become by Oberit, this program is available online and through the Oberit App, where you get rewarded for developing healthy daily habits. One habit you’ll be glad you keep is listening to amazing interviews like this one featuring the one and only Joe Booth so listen up. Contact Joe: joe@classfivemind.com Best piece of advice: "Trust the process" or "It works if you work it" Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendations: Buddhism & the Twelve Steps Daily Reflections: Thoughts on Dharma and

In this edition of The Way Out, I’m at once extremely humbled and grateful to bring you my interview with person in long term recovery and bonified poet, Melissa DeJesus. Melissa shares her journey to and through recovery to this point with us, a journey in which Melissa endures enough Capitol T Trauma, Adverse Childhood Experiences or ACES, and loss for multiple lifetimes. Carl Jung once said “No Tree, it is said, can grow to heaven unless it’s roots reach down to hell” and Gabor Mate is credited with coining the phrase “Ask, not why the addiction, but why the pain” two quotes that are quite apropos for many of us and certainly no more so than with Melissa. Perhaps the most beautiful gifts to come out of Melissa’s recovery are the Capital T Truth both Recovery and Spiritual she’s learned and indeed shares in this very interview, and her poetry, which has taken on new meaning in her Recovery and to that end I am beyond honored to share with you all one of Melissa’s original poems delivered by none other than

In this edition of The Way Out, I’m beyond excited to bring you my interview with award winning director and producer and founder of Emmy-nominated People People Media, Jared Callahan. A quick note before we proceed: Much to my chagrin and surprise I discovered after this interview that inexplicably my default recording microphone on my podcasting rig reverted to – insert gasp here – the microphone built into my webcam. As horrified as I was at the discovery, you can still hear yours truly just fine despite the sub-par webcam mic and you can hear Jared just fine despite the internet gremlins on his end, and it afforded me a few opportunities in light of this unfortunate turn of events. First, as my fiancée said to me after watching me have a near meltdown and listening to the raw audio, “it’s fine, it doesn't sound that bad at all” – I realized my podcasting ego was making a much bigger deal out of it than it actually was and the goal of this podcast is not audiophile perfection but to bring you powerful reco

In this edition of The Way Out, our intrepid and indeed tremendous cohost Jason had the amazing opportunity to share space with the creator of the Recovery Soulfood Podcast, Reverend Lona Currie, or LC as those who know him are fond of calling him. LC is a transgender mentor and a seemingly bottomless well of recovery wisdom and spiritual truth. Learning about LC's life will no doubt at once inspire, enlighten, and fascinate all who listen. His heart for the world is so big! You simply can't help but be inspired by the journey that brought him to where he's at today so listen up. Contact LC and other resources: https://www.facebook.com/LCrecoverysoulfood?mibextid=LQQJ4d https://www.youtube.com/@RecoverySoulfood Instagram @ecovery_soulfood (this is my contact info-DM) TikTok @RecoverySoulfood Best piece of Recovery Advice: "You can only grow to your environment" Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendation: The Twelve Universal Laws of Success: Herbert Harris:Chr https://www.amazon.com/Twelve-Universal-Laws-S

A long overdue and spectacular interview Jason and Charlie had with person in long term recovery, Faith, Recovery & Music Podcast cohost and founder and CEO of Spirits at Rest, Jeremy Gerres. Jeremy shares his amazing journey to & through #Recovery to this point with both Charlie & Jason in our first in studio interview in over 2 years! Jeremy is a true powerhouse in his local Recovery community Contact Jeremy: https://spiritsatrest.com/contact-us  Spirits at Rest: https://spiritsatrest.com/  Faith, Recovery & Music Podcast: https://www.faithrecoverymusic.com/  Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendations:  A.A. Big Book - https://www.aa.org/the-big-book  The Secret by Rhonda Byrne - https://www.amazon.com/Secret-Rhonda-Byrne/dp/1582701709  Best Piece of Recovery Advice - Whether you think you can or you think you can't you're right - Henry Ford  Songs that Symbolizes Recovery: Living Life by the Drop by Stevie Ray Vaughan - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=

In this edition of The Way Out, I’m absolutely thrilled to bring you a tremendous interview I had the pleasure of having with person in long term recovery and author of the new book Addicted in Film: Movies We Love About the Habits We Hate, Ted Perkins. Ted shares his journey to and through recovery to this point and how both smart recovery and how watching films about addiction and recovery in his early recovery – over 100 films in 100 days to be more precise – was instrumental to his recovery for what amounted to a few key reasons. The first reason and definitely one that’s near and dear to our hearts here at The Way Out, is that films are at their very core are telling a story, in this specific case, about addiction or recovery or both, and stories are how we humans evolved to learn, grow, and connect to each other. Stories help us understand our shared history and how we persevere and overcome all manner of hardship and adversity. At their best, stories captivate us, and we cannot help but connect to the

In this edition of The Way Out Jason - the best recovery podcast cohost in all the land had the pleasure of interviewing the founder of "Against The Odds", a thriving Facebook page and now a non-profit ministry, Phil Tyler! Phil's passion for his Higher Power embodied in his Christian Faith and for others is quite powerful. We hear about his journey to and through recovery as well as his passion for bringing Hope to the Hopeless through reading scripture to the thousands of members on his growing page. There is true power and community within this growing ministry and Phil’s story so listen up. Contact and Resources: atoministries.org | https://www.facebook.com/ATOministries Best Piece of Recovery Advice: "Don't let a decision today affect your recovery tomorrow." Recovery literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendation - Life Recovery Bible: https://www.amazon.com/Life-Recovery-Bible-Personal-Size/dp/1496427580/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2DYWBZKOYFR4M&keywords=life+recovery+bible&qid=1666744634&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIzLjQyIiwi

In this rendition of The Way Out I am beyond excited to bring you a highly entertaining and enlightening interview I had with person in long term recovery, author, speaker, educator, and all-around sobriety and mental health advocate Daniel Patterson. Daniel shares his journey to and through recovery to this point with an unmistakable candor along with a refreshing dose of levity that helps to underscore the overarching Recovery truths that are embodied within Daniel’s recovery story and message which are in large part that Recovery is an individual journey, all pathways to recovery matter, and we recover the best when we recover together. Our recovery journey is as unique as we are and if it works for us it’s valid and worth sharing with others as much and as often as we feel comfortable doing so, as your particular brand of recovery might just work for some other folks too. There are indeed also universal recovery and spiritual truths like self-honesty, asking for help, and helping others that unite all pat

In this edition of The Way Out I’m absolutely ecstatic and honored to bring you my interview with person in long term Recovery and all-around amazing human being, Carrie Wessling from Costa Rica Recovery. Carrie shares her journey to and through Recovery to this point with unmitigated candor and her story pardon the pun, carries an undeniable truth, which is no matter how many times we’ve tried to achieve meaningful and enduring recovery and fell short, there’s always hope for us so long as we’re still breathing. Recovery is not just possible for us, it’s available to anyone who truly wants it and is willing to lean in and do the hard work that’s required of us to truly get well, and when we find ourselves on that recovery and wellness journey, we’ll discover how truly rewarding life can be and Carrie’s story is proof positive of just that so listen up. Contact Carrie Wessling: https://www.costaricarecovery.com/contact-us/ Recovery literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendation - Drop the Rock: https://www.hazeldenbett

In this installment of The Way Out our intrepid recovery podcast cohost extraordinaire Jason brings us an outstanding interview where we get the privilege to get to know person in long term recovery, Sherry Gibson. By all rights Sherry should be dead a couple times over. Her journey to and through Recovery to this point and to God has been long and her message of hope is incredibly powerful. As they say... "Where there seems to be no way, God will make a way". Whether you consider yourself a religious person, spiritual person some combination of the two or neither spiritual or religious, Sherry’s story and message is chalked full of practical recovery wisdom and spiritual truth so listen up. Contact Sherry Gibson on Facebook or at Foxandfriendsfan@gmail.com Resources: Sherry offers biblical counseling free of charge!! Just contact her directly to connect! Biblical counseling and training resources: Chisagolakesbaptist.org OR Check churches in your area Book Recommendations: The Bible Addictions: A Banquet in

In this edition of The Way Out, our intrepid recovery co-host extraordinaire Jason had the distinct honor of sitting down with one of the founders of the McShin Foundation, John Shinholser! John recently celebrated 40 years of continuous Recovery and McShin was one of the first Recovery Community Organizations in the U.S. We get to hear John's story and learn how you can build your own Recovery Community Organization. Very few individuals have as much of a servant's heart as John does. McShin has touched thousands of lives, they have helped change and create legislation, and they bring hope and resources into correctional institutions all over the United States. This is one interview you won’t want to miss, so listen up. Contact John at johns@mcshin.org Resources: www.mcshin.org McShin Foundation - YouTube Get in the Herd: A Recovery Podcast - McShin Foundation Recovery literature (Quit-Lit) recommendations: NA Basic Text https://na.org/?ID=bt-aud Best Advice: "Don't use no matter what." Song that symbolizes

In this rendition of The Way Out I’m absolutely ecstatic that I am able to bring to you a phenomenal interview with person in long term recovery, clinical social worker, chemical dependency counselor, recover podcaster, and Author of two recovery books including his latest - Spirituality for People Who Hate Spirituality: A Primer – Casey Arrillaga. Casey shares his journey to and through Recovery to this point with a truly remarkable ability to articulate the benefits of being a part of recovery fellowships, recovery programs, and in engaging in a personal spiritual journey of your own variety whether you identify as an addict, alcoholic, or you are on the family side and identify as a person who is related to or has a loved one that struggles with addiction. Contact Casey: addictionandthefamily@gmail.com Addiction and the Family: Finding Recovery Together Podcast: https://addictionandthefamily.fireside.fm/hosts/casey Books written by Casey: https://www.amazon.com/P-Casey-Arrillaga/e/B09Q2J8BJT/ref=aufs_dp_ft

In this edition of The Way Out our tremendous recovery podcast co-host Jason catches up with an old friend who’s had a remarkable journey to and through recovery to this point, Tony Byrne! Tony shares his emotional story and the great work that he’s currently doing in the criminal justice system, working to fill the current gaps in our criminal justice system and to be a pioneer in the peer support movement in the state of Minnesota! Tony is super relatable and a true pleasure to listen to, and his inspiring story just may have you in varieties of tears, we’re talking goosebumps folks, so do make sure you listen up. Contact Tony: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=800445033 Books: The Bible The 4 Agreements by Don Miguel Ruiz: https://www.miguelruiz.com/the-four-agreements Best Advice: "Park in the back" (you have to listen in order to get this one) Song that reminds Tony of recovery: Carrie Underwood - Great Is Thy Faithfulness ft. CeCe Winans (Official Performance Video): https://youtu.be/NT0HcAr9aeI D

In this rendition of The Way Out I’m beyond thrilled to bring you my interview with Licensed Clinical Social Worker, person in long term recovery and Author of the book “The Science of Stuck: Breaking Through Inertia to Find Your Path Forward, Britt Frank. Britt shares her journey to and through recovery this point with at once an uncommon and refreshing forthrightness, and a truly remarkable insight. Britt has a tremendous ability to articulate so much of what drives addiction, trauma, mental health disorders, and counterproductive thought and behavior patterns in general, how we can shed the shame and stigma around them, and how we can begin a path to greater wellness and to building a life we don’t feel the need to constantly escape, or as Britt often and so eloquently sums it up, how to human better so listen up. Reach out to Britt Frank: britt@scienceofstuck.com Learn more about The Science of Stuck: Breaking Through Inertia to Find Your Path Forward https://www.scienceofstuck.com/ Recovery Resources Men

In this edition of The Way Out, our favorite recovery podcast co-host with the most, Jason has a marvelous interview with original drummer and one of the founding members of the band Maroon 5, Ryan Dusick. Ryan, who is now a person in long term recovery and a marriage and family therapist, shares his amazing journey of starting the band Maroon 5 and what it was like as the band blew up into international super-stardom, and in the process how he ended up losing his drumming career, and follow Ryan down to his personal point of desperation, which led to him finding true purpose in Recovery through his service work and now his career in helping those in their time of great need. Ryan talks about finding connections and about finding a new identity, post international pop superstardom as well as about his new career as a marriage and family therapist and what it was like to write his memoir Harder to Breathe: A Memoir of Making Maroon 5, Losing it All, and Finding Recovery. You won’t want to miss this very specia

In this edition of The Way Out, the Recovery Podcast Co-host with the most has a tremendous interview with Ohio recovery advocate and person in long term recovery, Daniel Ritchie. Daniel's journey to and through recovery to this point has been, in a word, intense. A journey that includes athleticism, abuse, MMA fighting, criminal behavior, addiction, and incarceration. Today Daniel is a single father to his daughter, a recovery coach, a motivational speaker, serves on the board of trustees for Tri-State Trauma Network, AND he's inspiring recovery in others through his social media platform. Daniel’s recovery story is one for the ages and without question one you won’t want to miss so listen up. Contact and Resources: https://www.facebook.com/dantheweapon www.cedaroakswellness.com Daniels Cell #- 513-602-7438 www.tristatetraumanetwork.org Recovery literature (Quit-Lit) recommendations: Drop the Rock: Removing Character Defects - Steps Six and Seven by Bill P. (Author), Todd Weber (Author), Sara S. (Author): ht

In this installment of The Way Out, recovery co-host extraordinaire Jason brings us a tremendous interview with peer recovery specialist, fellow recovery podcaster and person in long term recovery, Nathan Mitchell. Nathan shares his journey to and through recovery to this point with us and the path that led to an outstanding sense of purpose that may surprise you! Our Higher Power can often work in mysterious ways and this spiritual reality seems to be especially true in Nathan's case. It very much feels everything was mapped out for him. Nathan also throws out a challenge that’s very near and dear to our hearts here at The Way Out Podcast and that challenge is for each and every one of us to get out there and make our voices be heard in only the we we can, because your voice matters and your story matters, so listen up. Contact Nathan: nathanlmitchell@gmail.com Recovery Resources Mentioned on this Episode: http://www.mcshin.org/ https://www.facebook.com/McShinGetintheHerd Recovery literature (Quit-Lit) recom