This Is (not) It



An exploration of the things that make us think, for an intense but finite period, "Yes. This. This is the thing for me, the thing I've been searching for. THIS IS IT. Hobbies, career aspirations, relationships, workout plans, spiritual practices, diets, sexual pursuits, hairstyles, clothing. Whatever the thing, we are SURE it is it. And then, time passes. Our interest fades, our passion subsides. Gradually, one way or another, we come to realize, it was not the thing at all. This was not it. Each week, we talk with a new guest about a different thing that they were absolutely certain, at the time, was IT. @thisisnotitpod Hosted by Matt Wyatt @attentiondoozers


  • Ep 60: Rob Kerkovich

    Ep 60: Rob Kerkovich

    03/10/2018 Duración: 43min

    Actor + writer + feeler + thinker Rob Kerkovich talks about the Star Wars X-Wing miniatures fantasy game, living in New Orleans (and not Disneyland's New Orleans Square), CCH Pounder's Clocktower, the intersection of hardcore fishing aficionados and hardcore Star Wars collectors, collecting a game designed for social interaction only to avoid that social interaction, selling his Magic The Gathering cards so he can buy more Star Wars miniatures, his parents thinking he's famous to everyone, getting sucked back in by the 2nd edition, enrolling his four year old in his hobbies, the zen art of putting cards in sleeves, and throwing down for the 8-button joystick. Watch Rob on NCIS New Orleans, and check out the episode he co-wrote, airing Tuesday October 9th.

  • Ep 59: Molly Prather

    Ep 59: Molly Prather

    15/08/2018 Duración: 51min

    Molly Prather talks about screenwriting and social work, volunteering as an advocate, applying to grad school, going to church in the late 80s, her superpower: emotional stonewalling, crawling around in yoga pants during college, moving to NY, hating inefficiency, the fantasy of a 7am statistics class, going through the journey to get the answer, her all-lady D&D group, being her dog's main source of everything, and five grand being a cheap lesson. Check out to learn more and support their mission.

  • Ep 58: Below The Line (Will Carnahan  Jose Ibarra)

    Ep 58: Below The Line (Will Carnahan & Jose Ibarra)

    01/08/2018 Duración: 34min

    Two of the five original members of Below The Line (BTL), Will Carnahan and Jose Ibarra, talk about starting the podcast that was born out of an Amazon order and a 36 pack of PBR, being visual people trying to figure out audio, just wanting to hang out, get drunk and talk about movies, having strong Sam Rockwell affinity, being wild set boys holding onto the dream of Hollywood while hitting the wall of having to work, growing their own media empire, being too tired from making movies all day to talk about movies, birthing another podcast, being a professional lamp operator, the possibility of finding ghost episodes of BTL online, and fire-spinning. @jibarra_ @williamcarnahan

  • Ep 57: Clint Gage

    Ep 57: Clint Gage

    20/06/2018 Duración: 25min

    Clint Gage talks about growing a mustache, being a taurus and being on the cusp, taking the Baseball Hall of Fame family vacation, contemplating how a full sleeve tattoo would affect his other life choices, the dirty but approachable look, stress dreams, the secret 'stache menu at every restaurant, always being about to get back into things, and the hobbies waiting to be discovered out in the garage. Check out Clint on the Team Tiger Awesome Show podcast and at

  • Ep 56: Evan Gaustad

    Ep 56: Evan Gaustad

    06/06/2018 Duración: 33min

    Recorded remotely from his wooded cottage in Northern California, Evan Gaustad talks about starting a production company, his hit website BoringArticles.evan, his two paying clients, helping models be funny, realizing it was very hard to be a producer and it wasn't what he wanted to do anyway, stepping out for an existential cigarette, leaving Los Angeles mid-edit, the road from LA to Ukiah via Maine, teaching, writing and directing theatre, and podcasters hiding in his closet. Check out Evan's work in all his different web series: Talking Marriage With Ryan Bailey, YouCube, Vicariously.

  • Ep 55: Chelsea Clark-James

    Ep 55: Chelsea Clark-James

    23/05/2018 Duración: 39min

    Chelsea Clark-James talks about chemistry, inadvertently making chlorine gas in an attempt to create a better toilet bowl cleaner, growing up in Denver, becoming fascinated by the science of color and light, putting down thing she loved because there was no way to pursue it the way she would want to, coming from a long line of educated women, art and science coming from the same seed, the desire to sing in Spanish, and continuing to explore science without the dangerous in-home experiments part.

  • Ep 54: Nick Rallo

    Ep 54: Nick Rallo

    02/05/2018 Duración: 45min

    Nick Rallo talks about writing a novel, his transition into journalism, exploding himself on the page, getting to write about Chili's, stealing the Merck Manual from a library, not caring whether people read his work on their wrist or projected on the moon, trusting that he is good enough to finish the thing, the first sound the aliens hear, writing about artificial intelligence, and wanting the career path of Ninja Turtle. Check out Nick's work at the Dallas Observer

  • Ep 53: Katy Stoll

    Ep 53: Katy Stoll

    11/04/2018 Duración: 34min

    Katy Stoll talks about the intersection of activism, acting and producing, wanting to change the world but not being confident using the sleeve holes just yet, her star turn as Mr. Beaver, being Ms. High School America, empowering women to find their voice, growing up with a cool dad, finding the things that light her up, missing certain meats, not wanting her name on a bumper sticker, and the clay pot that is out there somewhere waiting for her to return. Follow @katystoll and check out her work on Some More News, Even More News, and on Smallbeans

  • Ep 52: Adam Sztykiel

    Ep 52: Adam Sztykiel

    04/04/2018 Duración: 33min

    Adam Sztykiel talks about self-reliance, the need to fly the plane himself, composting, creating his own ecosystem, having the bug-out bag packed, the fleeting joy of harvesting the corn, the desire to prove he's more than a guy who just sits at a typewriter, fatherhood, and throwing knives. Check out the movie he wrote, RAMPAGE starring Dwayne Johnson, in theaters April 13th.

  • Ep 51: Chris Cantwell

    Ep 51: Chris Cantwell

    14/03/2018 Duración: 40min

    Chris Cantwell talks about model trains, the intersection of the creative and the analytical, high barriers to entry, basic DCC wiring skills, the satisfaction of building an electrical circuit that works... and the emasculation of your train not running, thinking about building that drop cloth pulley system, the elephant in his garage, and bonsai trees. Brought to you by Flock n' Turf. Watch Chris' show Halt and Catch Fire on Netflix, and look out for his Dark Horse comic and a feature film coming soon.

  • Ep 50: Alison Rich

    Ep 50: Alison Rich

    07/03/2018 Duración: 42min

    Alison Rich talks about intuitive eating, being in the comedy realm, dieting with her dad, the difficulty of finding medical professionals online, learning to eat real meals, being amazed she hasn't been in a cult, the proactive feeling of online dating, and mindfulness. Check out Alison on season 5 of the Goldbergs and Drunk History. And look for her upcoming series, the McMillan Genius Grant.

  • EP 49: Carl Tart

    EP 49: Carl Tart

    28/02/2018 Duración: 39min

    Carl Tart talks about basketball, always rooting for the underdog, the Los Angeles park that he called home, the daily battle of piano vs hoops, moving from Mississippi to Inglewood, regretting not forging his mom's signature, getting to play basketball in college, the college paper that started his comedy writing career, finding improv and realizing it was his thing, and taking a year off to become Olympic-level at curling. Check out Carl's podcast,

  • Ep 48: Tara Erickson

    Ep 48: Tara Erickson

    21/02/2018 Duración: 42min

    Tara Erickson talks about becoming a dolphin trainer, being fond of large mammals, living alone in a three bedroom house in Hawaii, waking up at 4am to prep fish, getting her whistle, the pregnancy-detecting abilities of dolphins, swimming the length of an Olympic pool in one breath, acting, standup and developing her Idiot Army.

  • Ep 47: Ellie Knaus

    Ep 47: Ellie Knaus

    07/02/2018 Duración: 50min

    Ellie Knaus talks about writing a book about overcoming anxiety (which bred a lot of anxiety), podcasting in her car, showing off her tap dance skills in audio form, growing up in Houston, going to Smith, getting a nose piercing for one day, wanting to be on the CW, being diagnosed with a one in a million bone-dissolving tumor the size of a plastic easter egg, sitting on the couch and realizing she was still worthy of love, writing 80,000 words and not looking at them, unmedicated births, not wanting to be seen out of control, having your own back, wanting to create quality charcuterie platters, and raising kids. Check out Ellie's podcast, Atomic Moms

  • Ep 46: Jacquis Neal

    Ep 46: Jacquis Neal

    31/01/2018 Duración: 45min

    Jacquis Neal talks about his short-lived but storied career as a rapper with RDM (Run Dat Mob), growing up wanting to be an entertainer, being inspired by Marc Summers, going to high school and getting to be black in a white space, nightclub brawls, getting caught the first time out, stumbling into acting and realizing he loved it, blowing away the competition with very little training, 2002-2003 being a turning point in his life, the power of being told "go sit the hell down, you'll be fine", new discoveries in his life from trying new things as a result of boredom, his love of Chicago and the Cubs, performing at UCB, and getting drafted into the podcast NBA. Check out Jacquis' podcast, Culture Ki

  • Ep 45: Tess Paras

    Ep 45: Tess Paras

    24/01/2018 Duración: 40min

    Tess Paras talks about dating Bruce Wayne, finding her dream man - Metro Bicycle Guy on OKCupid and then serendipitously meeting him in real life, spending Christmas in Prague, living that downtown penthouse apartment life, reg flags at an ugly sweater party, the diagnosis her therapist gave her boyfriend that changed everything, relationships being mirrors that show us ourselves, being sent a blog post about cupcakes post breakup, everyone being someone's therapist, muay thai, and her runs on Crazy Ex Girlfriend and Grimm. See Tess in Quick & Funny Musicals at UCB.

  • Ep 44: Matt Pollock

    Ep 44: Matt Pollock

    17/01/2018 Duración: 43min

    Matt Pollock talks baseball, not realizing there was entire world of other Matts out there, his meteoric pubescent rise, being a Milford man, getting called up from Farms to Majors, not growing into athlete size, being Bo Jackson'd (so good at baseball that they tried to fit him into other sports), resting on his laurels and his natural abilities coming back to haunt him, deciding not to go for the pros, developing an interest in film, becoming a director, buying a keyboard in order to learn piano after seeing La La Land, getting jacked but still being two weeks away from the worst shape of his life, playing with Legos, and being an absolute pro surfer. Check out Matt's work at

  • Ep 43: Stacie Corliss

    Ep 43: Stacie Corliss

    10/01/2018 Duración: 41min

    Stacie Corliss talks about acting and singing leading to modeling leading to writing, being from Nebraska by way of Santa Barbara, wanting Vivian Leigh and Judy Garland's careers, studying theatre with a side of theatre, being the captain of three varsity sports in high school, stumbling into a modeling career, getting signed by Ford, her book series All About Dinosaurs volumes 1-3, opening her own library, getting her first cover (Scientific American Mind) and thinking her hair looked amazing only to find out it had been... removed, starting her blog, making 2018 about focus, and Summer Camp Tuesdays. Check out Stacie's work at

  • Ep 42: Rabbi Susan Goldberg

    Ep 42: Rabbi Susan Goldberg

    20/12/2017 Duración: 40min

    Rabbi Susan Goldberg talks about modern dance, being the rare bird who actually grew up in LA, closing the curtains and just dancing, realizing there was something more than what she was doing, spiritual expression being connected to her body and movement, becoming a rabbi, expansive Jewish spirituality, seeing how people long for meaning and community, becoming interested in storytelling, and the power of poetry. If you are reading this, go to Temple.

  • Ep 41: David Futernick

    Ep 41: David Futernick

    13/12/2017 Duración: 44min

    David Futernick talks about wanting to become a SERIOUS THEATRE ACTOR, growing up in Hartford, having his whiteness mocked, booking that sweet USPS gig, not being athletic but dreaming of playing basketball, portraying an incel (look it up) on Criminal Minds, realizing he wasn't going to make money in theatre, almost failing Voice and losing his BFA, getting on-camera training at College Humor, trolling athletes on Twitter, and getting into a spat with a Greek NBA player. Listen to David's podcast The Super Hoopers, inconsequential discussions of the NBA.

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