Orange And Brown Talk Podcast

In this live postgame edition of the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock, Lance Reisland and Dan Labbe break down the Browns' 26-8 loss to the San Francisco 49ers. They start by analyzing the performance of rookie quarterback Shedeur Sanders in his second start. They discuss the positive takeaways, including a well-thrown touchdown pass to Harold Fannin Jr. and avoiding costly interceptions, while also examining his development and what these final games mean for his future with the team. Can he do enough to prove he's the long-term answer at quarterback? They also touch on the sideline frustration between Sanders and Jerry Jeudy, the team's offensive chemistry issues and the overall sense of a season of missed opportunities. Another major topic of discussion? The continued struggles of the special teams. They detail several critical errors, from a muffed punt to poor returns, that gave the 49ers excellent field position and directly impacted the game's outcome. They explore h

The ⁠⁠⁠Browns⁠⁠⁠ return home on Sunday to host the San Francisco 49ers, a team fighting for the playoffs but also traveling cross-country on a short week to play in Cleveland. Rookie quarterback Shedeur Sanders will make his second consecutive start for the Browns. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe begin this week’s preview edition of the ⁠⁠⁠Orange and Brown Talk podcast⁠⁠⁠ by talking about what to expect from Sanders in his second start. Will he take positive steps forward or will 49ers defensive coordinator Robert Saleh have him off balance? Then Lance Reisland joins the podcast to give his scouting report of the 49ers. What do they do well? Where can the Browns win their matchups against them?Lance also makes his pick for Sunday’s game. Then Mary Kay and Ashley rejoin the pod and, along with Dan, make their picks for Sunday in Cleveland. Follow us: On X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/orangebrowntalk⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe look ahead to Shedeur Sanders' second start as the Browns prepare to face the 49ers. They debate what a successful outing looks like for the rookie quarterback. Is a performance similar to his debut against Las Vegas enough, or does he need to show clear signs of progress in efficiency and execution? They discuss how the Browns' offense can build on the explosive plays from the last game while also developing more sustained drives. The conversation then shifts to address the off-field narratives surrounding Sanders. They break down the "Game Ball-Gate" controversy that erupted on social media after Kevin Stefanski didn't award Sanders a game ball for his first win. They provide context on Stefanski's history with game balls, his methodical approach to developing rookies, and debunk the conspiracy theories that the coach is attempting to sabotage his young quarterback. Follow us: On X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe look ahead to the Browns' Week 12 matchup against the San Francisco 49ers. They discuss what to expect from rookie quarterback Shedeur Sanders in his second start as he faces a Robert Saleh-coached defense. They talk about how the Browns might expand the game plan for Sanders and how the defense will match up against Brock Purdy, especially with potential bad weather and the homefield advantage. Then, Lance Reisland joins for his weekly film breakdown of the Browns' win over the Raiders. Lance gives his detailed analysis of Shedeur Sanders' performance, what he did well, and where he needs to improve. He also dives into the dominant performance by the defensive line, highlighting why Myles Garrett is playing on “another planet" and the importance of the team's interior pressure. Lastly, Lance and Dan do a four-round draft of the coaching clichés. Follow us: On X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

On this Hey, Mary Kay edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Ashley Bastock break down the big news of the day: Shedeur Sanders will start for the Browns against the San Francisco 49ers. Fresh off red-eye flights from Las Vegas, they dive into listener questions about the rookie QB. Has Sanders already secured the starting job for the rest of the season? They discuss his poise, ability to push the ball downfield, and how he's brought new energy to the offense. The conversation also explores whether Sanders can convince the Browns not to draft a quarterback early in 2026 and the adjustments needed to build chemistry with Jerry Jeudy and Isaiah Bond. Plus, they dig into the defense's dominant performance, crediting the interior line for Myles Garrett's success, and whether defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz will be a head coaching candidate next year. Follow us: On X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/orang

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe check in from Las Vegas on the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast to break down the Browns' 24-10 win over the Raiders. The main topic of discussion: Shedeur Sanders’ first career start. While his final stat line was modest, Sanders provided explosive plays the offense has lacked all season. Did Sanders’ performance, filled with tantalizing flashes, earn him another start over Dillon Gabriel, even after Gabriel clears the concussion protocol. On the other side of the ball, they discuss another dominant performance from Myles Garrett, who added three sacks to his total, resetting his own franchise record for sacks in a season with 18. The group talks about his historic pace and how the improved play of the interior defensive line has unleashed him. They also touch on how the defense’s elite play should create a sense of urgency for the front office to solve the quarterback position and how the team’s rookies provide a bright spot for the future. Follow us: On X:

The ⁠⁠Browns⁠⁠ take to the road on Sunday to take on the Las Vegas Raiders, a 2-8 football team that is averaging fewer points per game than even the anemic Browns offense. Most notably, rookie quarterback Shedeur Sanders will make his first career start for the Browns. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe begin this week’s preview edition of the ⁠⁠Orange and Brown Talk podcast⁠⁠ by talking about what to expect from Sanders in his first start. Will the Browns figure out how to best utilize his strengths and minimize his weaknesses? Then Lance Reisland joins the podcast to give his scouting report of the Raiders. What do they do well? Where can the Browns win their matchups against them? Lance also makes his pick for Sunday’s game. Then Mary Kay and Ashley rejoin the pod and, along with Dan, make their picks for Sunday in Las Vegas. Follow us: On X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/orangebrowntalk⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock, and Dan Labbe get into the topic of the week: Shedeur Sanders has been named the starting quarterback for the Browns’ game against the Las Vegas Raiders. They discuss Sanders’ supreme confidence heading into his first NFL start, how the coaching staff can balance his big-play style with smart game management and the challenge of facing the Raiders on the road. Then, Mary Kay sits down with a very special guest: former Browns quarterback and Cleveland native, Brian Hoyer. Brian provides a unique quarterback’s perspective on Sanders’ potential and what he needs to improve on. He draws compelling parallels between the current quarterback situation with Dillon Gabriel and his own experience playing alongside Johnny Manziel. Hoyer also weighs in on Manziel’s recent comments about the organization and shares his heartfelt well wishes for Browns legend Bernie Kosar. Follow us: On X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, it’s all about Raiders week and the expected first NFL start for Browns rookie quarterback Shedeur Sanders. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe set the table for the week and Mary Kay is 99.9% certain Sanders will start and explains what the Browns need to do to design a game plan that maximizes his skill set as a drop-back passer. Ashley discusses the Browns’ terrible track record in West Coast games and why this matchup might not be the easy win some fans expect. They also marvel at Myles Garrett’s dominant season and wonders what he has in store for the Raiders. Then, Lance Reisland joins Dan for a deep dive into the Ravens film. Lance breaks down every snap from Shedeur Sanders’ debut, highlighting the good, the bad and the footwork. He offers his game plan for Sanders and explains why the interior defensive line has been so crucial to Garrett’s success. Finally, Lance and Dan have some fun with a Thanksgiving food draft, building a s

On this Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe dive into the start of the Shedeur Sanders era. With Dillon Gabriel in the concussion protocol, Sanders is on track for his first career start against the Raiders, and the questions from Football Insider subscribers are flying in. Mary Kay and Dan break down whether Sanders has what it takes to run away with the starting job. They analyze his debut performance against the Ravens, discussing his elite arm talent and catchable ball versus his struggles with reading defenses and taking sacks. The conversation explores how offensive coordinator Tommy Rees might simplify the game plan for the rookie and the importance of avoiding the high-risk, high-reward plays. They also tackle the "reps-gate" controversy, debating if the Browns' roster construction and lack of first-team reps set Sanders up for a difficult debut. Finally, they look at the bigger picture: Can a strong performance earn Sanders the job long-te

Barring a quick run through the concussion protocol by Dillon Gabriel, it will be Shedeur Sanders starting next week for the Browns against the Las Vegas Raiders. Sanders came in to start the second half of Sunday’s 23-16 loss after Gabriel was removed with a concussion. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe started the postgame edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing Sanders’ debut and what could be different next week if he does, in fact, make the first start of his NFL career. They also talk about the performance of pass rusher Myles Garrett, who added four more sacks on Sunday and is on track to break the single-season record and win his second Defensive Player of the Year award. Follow us: On X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/orangebrowntalk⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube: h⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

The ⁠Browns⁠ return home on Sunday to host their AFC North rivals, the Baltimore Ravens. It’s the second meeting between the two and it’s a matchup between two teams going in very different directions. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe begin this week’s preview edition of the ⁠Orange and Brown Talk podcast⁠ by looking ahead to Sunday’s matchup and talking through some of the storylines they’re watching. Can Tommy Rees and Dillon Gabriel get the offense moving? Can Carson Schwesinger slow down Lamar Jackson? Could we see Shedeur Sanders this week? Then Lance Reisland joins the podcast to give his scouting report of the Ravens. What has changed about Baltimore since the last time the two teams played? How can the Browns attack them on both sides of the ball? Lance also makes his pick for Sunday’s game. Then Mary Kay and Ashley rejoin the pod and, along with Dan, make their picks for Sunday at Huntington Bank Field. Follow us: On X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

On Wednesday’s edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe dig into the Browns’ quarterback situation as they prepare to face the Baltimore Ravens. The main topic is Dillon Gabriel’s struggle with accuracy and the mounting pressure for him and offensive coordinator Tommy Rees to turn things around. With backup Shedeur Sanders waiting in the wings, a sense of urgency is growing. They discuss whether the offensive woes are all on Gabriel or if a struggling receiving corps and protection issues share the blame. They analyze the statistics, from Gabriel’s low completion percentage to the receivers’ high number of drops, painting a picture of a comprehensive offensive problems. This leads to the central debate: Should the Browns stick with their plan and allow Gabriel more time to develop, or is it time to see what Sanders can do? They weigh the pros and cons of throwing a rookie into a difficult situation versus staying patient in a season where playoff hopes

On Wednesday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe spin it forward to the Browns’ Week 11 matchup against the Baltimore Ravens. After a devastating loss to the Jets, can the Browns rebound at home? They discuss the state of the Ravens, who are on a winning streak with a healthy Lamar Jackson, and debate whether Cleveland’s stout home defense gives them a chance for a shocking upset. They also analyze the offense under new play-caller Tommy Rees, try to find encouraging signs from Dillon Gabriel and Jerry Jeudy and how other players can get more involved. Then, Lance Reisland joins the show for his weekly film breakdown of the loss to the Jets. Lance details exactly what went wrong on the two special teams touchdowns, the ongoing fundamental issues with the offensive line and the costly mental mistakes that doomed the Browns in a winnable game. To wrap up, Lance and Dan draft all-time NFL greats using a blind resume format where they pick a team by number and the

On this Monday, Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe are back from New York to break down the Browns' 27-20 loss to the Jets. With other NFL coaches getting fired, they start by answering a Football Insider subscriber's question about Kevin Stefanski's job security. Mary Kay explains why she believes Stefanski is safe for now, but Dan wonders if the ugly loss to the Jets could change the thinking in Berea. Then, they dive deep into the quarterback situation. Mary Kay makes her case for why the Browns should stick with Dillon Gabriel, giving him more time with new play-caller Tommy Rees. They discuss the struggles of the offense, from sacks and penalties to a lack of continuity with injured players. How long is Gabriel's leash before the team turns to Shedeur Sanders? Finally, they look at the bigger picture, discussing how the evaluation of the rookie quarterbacks this season ties into the Browns' expected plan to draft a franchise quarterback in 2026

On our postgame edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe break down the Browns' frustrating 27-20 loss to the New York Jets. They start with the quarterback position. After Kevin Stefanski announced he's sticking with Dillon Gabriel, they discuss why that might be the right call, giving Gabriel and new play-caller Tommy Rees more time to gel. They weigh the patience required for a rookie against the growing fan clamor to see Shedeur Sanders, acknowledging that the rest of the season is about evaluating these young quarterbacks. Then, the conversation shifts to the special teams, which completely imploded. A kickoff return and a punt return for touchdowns in just 36 seconds led to 14 points for the Jets. On defense, a critical offsides penalty by Cam Thomas cost the Browns dearly. This leads to a bigger discussion: Is this loss the final straw? The hosts question the coaching, the mental errors and whether it's fair to start wavering on the long-term

Browns Chief Strategy Officer Paul DePodesta is leaving the team to lead the Colorado Rockies. We start our Browns at Jets preview edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing DePodesta’s departure and what it means for the Browns moving forward. Then we turn our attention to Sunday’s game as the Browns try to snap a 12-game road losing streak this week when they head to New Jersey to take on the Jets at MetLife Stadium. The Browns are 2-6 and the Jets are 1-7. Both teams are coming off their bye but took very different approaches to the trade deadline. New York traded away cornerback Sauce Gardner and defensive tackle Quinnen Williams while the Browns stood pat. We get into all angles of this matchup. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start the podcast by talking about DePodesta and also Tommy Rees calling plays. Then Lance Reisland joins the show to go over his Jets scouting report and makes his pick. Then Mary Kay and Ashley rejoin the pod and they make their picks for Sunda

On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe tackle the futures of two key offensive weapons for the Browns. First up is tight end David Njoku, who expressed his desire to remain a Brown for life after surviving the trade deadline. With his contract expiring, they discuss what a potential extension could look like, weighing his age, injury history and excellent blocking against the presence of rookie Harold Fannin Jr. and the strategy of letting the free-agent market determine his price. Next, they turn to the perplexing struggles of wide receiver Jerry Jeudy. After a breakout 2024 season and great offseason, Jeudy’s performance has been a major disappointment, marked by drops and frustration. They try to find the root causes: Is it on Jeudy, or is the team’s quarterback instability and overall offensive woes to blame? They explore whether a new play-caller in Tommy Rees and the return of Cedric Tillman can help get him back on track for the remainder o

On this post-trade deadline edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe break down a quiet NFL trade deadline for the Browns. While the Browns made only a minor move involving Joe Tryon-Shoyinka, their upcoming opponent, the New York Jets, held a massive fire sale, trading away two of their defensive stars. The crew analyzes why the Browns chose to stand pat, pointing to their strong draft position with two first-round picks and the lack of available players who could truly alter their season. They explore the team's brief inquiry into Jets receiver Garrett Wilson and the decision not to trade veterans like David Njoku or Myles Garrett. With no outside help arriving, the focus shifts to the rest of the season. They discuss the immense pressure on the struggling offense to find answers from within, highlighting the need for players like Cedric Tillman and Jerry Jeudy to step up. They frame the upcoming game against the dismantled Jets as a "need to win"

On this Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe dive into the biggest Browns news from the day: Kevin Stefanski handing over play-calling duties to Tommy Rees. They break down what Rees can do differently to ignite the struggling Browns offense, from sticking with the run game to finding ways to make quarterback Dillon Gabriel more comfortable and confident. With wide receiver Cedric Tillman returning from injury, how will his presence impact the receiving corps and take pressure off a pressing Jerry Jeudy? The quarterback discussion doesn’t stop there. Mary Kay offers her insight on the “real story” behind Shedeur Sanders’ back injury and whether the team is truly ready to hand him the reins. They also tackle the elephant in the room: the possibility of Deshaun Watson returning this season and what that could mean for his trade value. Finally, as the NFL trade deadline approaches, Mary Kay and Dan speculate on potential moves the Browns could make to b