Out Of The Shadows

In "The Bounty Hunters' Trail," the fifth episode of "The Maps," hosts Shane and Wendy turn the spotlight onto the crucial role of bounty hunters Rob Dick and Leonard Padilla in unraveling the mystery of the Speed Freak Killers. This episode explores how their involvement was pivotal in uncovering the maps that would eventually lead to the discovery of many victims' remains.Shane and Wendy delve into the high-stakes world of bounty hunting, detailing how Rob Dick and Leonard Padilla embarked on their journey into the heart of one of California's most notorious criminal cases. The hosts recount the relentless efforts, the breakthroughs, and the challenges faced by these two men in their pursuit of justice.Alongside this gripping narrative, the episode introduces the tragic case of Gayle Marks, who disappeared at the age of 18 on 10/18/1988. Gayle, a Caucasian young woman with naturally blonde hair and blue eyes, went missing under mysterious circumstances, leaving behind a trail of

In the gripping fourth episode of "The Maps," titled "Cyndi and Phillip Disappear," hosts Shane and Wendy guide listeners through the chilling and mysterious disappearances of Cyndi Vanderheiden and Phillip Cabot Lloyd Martin, set against the sinister backdrop of the Speed Freak Killers' rampage.The episode delves deep into the story of Cyndi Vanderheiden, the last known victim before the apprehension of Wesley Sherman Tyne and Lauren Herzog. Through a detailed exploration of her life and the tragic circumstances of her disappearance, the hosts paint a vivid picture of the irreversible void left in the hearts of those who knew her.Simultaneously, the episode sheds light on the lesser-known but equally unsettling case of Phillip Cabot Lloyd Martin, who vanished in September 1993. Suspected to be another victim of the notorious duo, Phillip's story is a haunting narrative of loss and unanswered questions. The episode intricately weaves the details of his life, the perplexing nature of hi

In "Chevy's Vanishing," the third episode of "The Maps," we journey into the heart-wrenching story of Chevy Wheeler's disappearance on October 16th, 1985. Hosts Shane and Wendy lead the audience through the unsettling circumstances of that day, when Chevy, after telling friends she would be skipping school with Wesley Shermantine, became engulfed in a mystery that would haunt her family for decades.The episode features an emotionally charged interview with Chevy's mother, Paula, who recounts the last moments she shared with her daughter. Her vivid memories paint a poignant picture of the events that preceded Chevy’s disappearance, immersing listeners in the family's world of confusion, hope, and despair.Twenty-seven years after that fateful day, the discovery of Chevy's remains in a shallow grave brings a bitter closure to her case. This episode thoughtfully examines the long-lasting impact of this discovery, not only on Chevy's family but also on the community forever

Shane and Wendy take a poignant turn as they delve into the narratives of the victims of the Speed Freak Killers. This episode brings to the forefront the heart-wrenching stories of those who disappeared, casting a light on the faces and lives behind the statistics.The episode is a moving tribute to the victims, featuring intimate conversations with their families. Listen to their accounts of the days leading up to the disappearances, their enduring quests for answers, and the devastating impact these losses have had on their lives. The families’ voices bring a deeply personal and emotional dimension to the tragic tale of Wesley Shermantine and Loren Herzog.A significant focus of this episode is on the story of Jo Ann Hobson, whose remains were found after an agonizing 27-year wait. The hosts engage in a touching interview with Jo Ann’s mother, Ms. Joan Shelley, capturing her relentless pursuit of truth and justice for her daughter. Additionally, the episode includes insights from Robin Armtrout's niece,

Shane and Wendy embark on a haunting exploration of the notorious Speed Freak Killers. The chilling saga of Wesley Shermantine and Loren Herzog unfolds in this detailed narrative, tracing their transformation from childhood friends to ruthless serial killers in the London area of California. Spanning from 1984 to 1999, their heinous spree claimed an estimated 60 lives, leaving a permanent scar on the communities they terrorized.Dive deep into the intricate web of crimes committed by these two men. This episode scrutinizes every facet of their journey – from their early days and descent into darkness to their eventual capture. Through interviews with investigators, psychologists, and families of the victims, Shane and Wendy strive to comprehend the incomprehensible: what drives such a drastic shift from hunting animals to hunting humans?Listeners are invited to follow the hosts as they unravel the complex investigation and the pivotal role of methamphetamine in fueling the killers' actions. Learn about all

Shane and Gemma join forces with Associate Professor Michael Salter, a criminologist from the University of New South Wales. As an expert deeply immersed in the study and support of organized sexual abuse survivors, Salter brings critical knowledge and urgency to the conversation, spotlighting a subject historically shrouded in doubt and misapprehension.Salter discusses the paradigm shift in how organized sexual abuse, especially involving individuals who endured such atrocities in childhood, is recognized and approached today. With regret, he reflects on the skepticism that once met such cases and how his association with bodies like the ISSTD, Child Abuse Prevention Service Australia, and the eSafety Office signifies progress in advocacy and support.The dialogue turns to the defunct False Memory Syndrome Foundation, a body that once vigorously challenged the credibility of recovered memories of childhood abuse. Salter dissects the implications of its dissolution, affirming the scientific consensus around tr

Shane and Gemma are accompanied by Mike, a seasoned expert in behavior detection with a background in federal government operations. Mike brings his expertise to the table, illuminating the conversation with insights into the nuances of human behavior under the lens of scrutiny. His personal recount of a traumatic upbringing in a Catholic school system, marred by harsh discipline, sets the stage for a deeper understanding of the psychological aftermath of such environments.As the conversation delves into the technical aspects of behavior detection, Mike elucidates the subtle yet telling signs that may indicate deception, stress, or fear. He describes how involuntary microfacial expressions, self-soothing actions, and mismatches between verbal and non-verbal communication can betray an individual's attempts to conceal the truth. These insights offer a fascinating glimpse into the art and science of discerning authenticity, particularly within the context of high-stakes situations.Further enriching the disc

Shane and Gemma are accompanied by Mike, a seasoned expert in behavior detection with a background in federal government operations. Mike brings his expertise to the table, illuminating the conversation with insights into the nuances of human behavior under the lens of scrutiny. His personal recount of a traumatic upbringing in a Catholic school system, marred by harsh discipline, sets the stage for a deeper understanding of the psychological aftermath of such environments.As the conversation delves into the technical aspects of behavior detection, Mike elucidates the subtle yet telling signs that may indicate deception, stress, or fear. He describes how involuntary microfacial expressions, self-soothing actions, and mismatches between verbal and non-verbal communication can betray an individual's attempts to conceal the truth. These insights offer a fascinating glimpse into the art and science of discerning authenticity, particularly within the context of high-stakes situations.Further enriching the disc

In a compelling deviation from its regular format, this episode presents an immersive audio experience direct from the legislative heart of Maryland. This episode departs from the familiar voices of Shane and Gemma, instead channeling the raw advocacy and powerful testimonies that resonated through the halls of Annapolis on February 20th, during the hearing for the Hidden Predator Act of 2020.The episode captures the fervent arguments presented by survivors Teresa Lancaster and Jean Wehner, alongside other courageous individuals and specialists, who stand united on the legislative floor. Their voices echo the distress and determination of countless survivors seeking to overhaul the legal constraints that currently bar them from seeking civil justice for the abuses they endured. The act under discussion is a beacon of hope for many, promising a legal pathway to confront and expose their abusers without the impediments of time-barred legislation.The hearing unfolds across three panels, with survivors and expert

In a compelling deviation from its regular format, this episode presents an immersive audio experience direct from the legislative heart of Maryland. This episode departs from the familiar voices of Shane and Gemma, instead channeling the raw advocacy and powerful testimonies that resonated through the halls of Annapolis on February 20th, during the hearing for the Hidden Predator Act of 2020.The episode captures the fervent arguments presented by survivors Teresa Lancaster and Jean Wehner, alongside other courageous individuals and specialists, who stand united on the legislative floor. Their voices echo the distress and determination of countless survivors seeking to overhaul the legal constraints that currently bar them from seeking civil justice for the abuses they endured. The act under discussion is a beacon of hope for many, promising a legal pathway to confront and expose their abusers without the impediments of time-barred legislation.The hearing unfolds across three panels, with survivors and expert

Shane and Gemma open the floor to the audience, addressing the many questions submitted by dedicated listeners over the series' run. This episode marks the first in a trilogy where the hosts connect with their audience on a personal level, discussing the multifaceted aspects of Sister Cathy's case and the haunting legacy it leaves behind.The episode serves as a platform for inquiry and understanding, where Shane and Gemma bring their investigative insight to bear on the complexities and nuances of the case. They tackle a wide array of questions, ranging from the specifics of the night of Sister Cathy's disappearance to the broader implications of the institutional response to her murder. In a respectful exchange, they dissect theories, weigh evidence, and consider alternative narratives, all while maintaining a grounding in the facts and testimonies that have been unearthed throughout their journey.Listeners' engagement is palpable as Shane and Gemma navigate through the sea of inquiries, each

Shane and Gemma open the floor to the audience, addressing the many questions submitted by dedicated listeners over the series' run. This episode marks the first in a trilogy where the hosts connect with their audience on a personal level, discussing the multifaceted aspects of Sister Cathy's case and the haunting legacy it leaves behind.The episode serves as a platform for inquiry and understanding, where Shane and Gemma bring their investigative insight to bear on the complexities and nuances of the case. They tackle a wide array of questions, ranging from the specifics of the night of Sister Cathy's disappearance to the broader implications of the institutional response to her murder. In a respectful exchange, they dissect theories, weigh evidence, and consider alternative narratives, all while maintaining a grounding in the facts and testimonies that have been unearthed throughout their journey.Listeners' engagement is palpable as Shane and Gemma navigate through the sea of inquiries, each

In a special interactive session of Foul Play: Crime Series, "Sister Cathy, Voices Unheard – Listener Q&A, Part 1," hosts Shane and Gemma open the floor to the audience, addressing the many questions submitted by dedicated listeners over the series' run. This episode marks the first in a trilogy where the hosts connect with their audience on a personal level, discussing the multifaceted aspects of Sister Cathy's case and the haunting legacy it leaves behind.The episode serves as a platform for inquiry and understanding, where Shane and Gemma bring their investigative insight to bear on the complexities and nuances of the case. They tackle a wide array of questions, ranging from the specifics of the night of Sister Cathy's disappearance to the broader implications of the institutional response to her murder. In a respectful exchange, they dissect theories, weigh evidence, and consider alternative narratives, all while maintaining a grounding in the facts and testimonies that have been u

"Sister Cathy, Confronting the Unspeakable – Child Abuse and Recovery," is a profound episode, where Shane and Gemma are joined by Kate MacDowell, a seasoned expert in trauma therapy. Kate brings a wealth of knowledge to the table, with 26 years in the field and an academic background that solidifies her expertise. Her personal journey as a survivor of child sexual abuse within the Archdiocese of Minnesota lends an authentic voice to the dialogue, resonating with the gravitas of lived experience.Throughout the episode, the trio tackles the difficult topics head-on, discussing the complex nature of pedophilia as a psychiatric disorder characterized by specific criteria and the delicate matters involved in its diagnosis and representation. Kate clarifies common misconceptions, providing an analytical framework for understanding the mental health condition and its legal and social implications.As the conversation progresses, Kate shares critical preventative strategies, underlining the importance of empo

In a unique solo episode of Foul Play: Crime Series, "Sister Cathy, The Examiner's Tale – A Forensic Reckoning," Gemma conducts a rare and insightful interview with Dr. Werner Spitz, the renowned forensic pathologist whose expertise has illuminated some of the most challenging cases in recent history. Dr. Spitz's role as the Medical Examiner for Baltimore at the time of Sister Cathy's murder places him in a unique position to shed light on the cold facts that speak volumes in silence.Dr. Spitz unravels the grim details of Sister Cathy's murder, providing a meticulous forensic analysis of the injuries sustained, which not only offer clues to her last moments but also to the possible motives behind this horrendous act. His professional discernment lends a gripping comparison to other high-profile cases he has worked on, including the profound impacts such investigations have had on the judicial process and public consciousness.Gemma's conversation with Dr. Spitz also navigates throug

Shane welcomes back investigative reporter Tom Nugent to peel back the layers of conspiracy surrounding the Sister Cathy case. With Gemma absent from this episode, Shane and Tom engage in a probing dialogue that ventures deep into the heart of Baltimore's darkest histories, uncovering threads of corruption, church complicity, and law enforcement's enigmatic role in sprawling political scandals.The episode begins with a forensic puzzle: a cigarette butt found at a crime scene, which, after DNA analysis, has failed to directly implicate Father Maskell. Yet, the discussion quickly transcends this singular clue to question Maskell's broader role in the nexus of criminal activities. Tom Nugent, with his seasoned eye for investigative journalism, postulates the possibility of Maskell's indirect influence, orchestrating crimes through third parties, and the systematic burying of evidence by key institutions from the Baltimore County Police to the FBI.Tom shares anecdotes from his tenure at the Baltim

In part three of an incisive three-part series, Shane welcomes back investigative reporter Tom Nugent to peel back the layers of conspiracy surrounding the Sister Cathy case. With Gemma absent from this episode, Shane and Tom engage in a probing dialogue that ventures deep into the heart of Baltimore's darkest histories, uncovering threads of corruption, church complicity, and law enforcement's enigmatic role in sprawling political scandals.The episode begins with a forensic puzzle: a cigarette butt found at a crime scene, which, after DNA analysis, has failed to directly implicate Father Maskell. Yet, the discussion quickly transcends this singular clue to question Maskell's broader role in the nexus of criminal activities. Tom Nugent, with his seasoned eye for investigative journalism, postulates the possibility of Maskell's indirect influence, orchestrating crimes through third parties, and the systematic burying of evidence by key institutions from the Baltimore County Police to the FBI.To

In part two of an incisive three-part series, Shane welcomes back investigative reporter Tom Nugent to peel back the layers of conspiracy surrounding the Sister Cathy case. With Gemma absent from this episode, Shane and Tom engage in a probing dialogue that ventures deep into the heart of Baltimore's darkest histories, uncovering threads of corruption, church complicity, and law enforcement's enigmatic role in sprawling political scandals.The episode begins with a forensic puzzle: a cigarette butt found at a crime scene, which, after DNA analysis, has failed to directly implicate Father Maskell. Yet, the discussion quickly transcends this singular clue to question Maskell's broader role in the nexus of criminal activities. Tom Nugent, with his seasoned eye for investigative journalism, postulates the possibility of Maskell's indirect influence, orchestrating crimes through third parties, and the systematic burying of evidence by key institutions from the Baltimore County Police to the FBI.Tom

In part one of an incisive three-part series, Shane welcomes back investigative reporter Tom Nugent to peel back the layers surrounding the Sister Cathy case. With Gemma absent from this episode, Shane and Tom engage in a probing dialogue that ventures deep into the heart of Baltimore's darkest histories, uncovering threads of corruption, church complicity, and law enforcement's enigmatic role in sprawling political scandals.The episode begins with a forensic puzzle: a cigarette butt found at a crime scene, which, after DNA analysis, has failed to directly implicate Father Maskell. Yet, the discussion quickly transcends this singular clue to question Maskell's broader role in the nexus of criminal activities. Tom Nugent, with his seasoned eye for investigative journalism, postulates the possibility of Maskell's indirect influence, orchestrating crimes through third parties, and the systematic burying of evidence by key institutions from the Baltimore County Police to the FBI.Tom shares anecdot

Today's solemn episode marks the passage of five decades since the world was robbed of a compassionate soul. Hosts Shane and Gemma invite listeners to join in a moment of reflection, honoring the life of Sister Cathy Cesnik, who left her Carriage House Apartment for the last time 50 years ago. This episode is not about the mystery of her death but a celebration of her life, which blossomed with aspirations and impacted many.In this heartfelt tribute, we hear intimate anecdotes and remembrances from those who knew Cathy best—her friends and former students. Their stories weave a tapestry of Sister Cathy's character, reflecting her kindness, her dedication to education, and her enduring influence. Each memory shared today is a testament to the light she brought into the world, a light that continues to shine through the darkness of her untimely departure.As Shane and Gemma facilitate this collection of narratives, they craft a mosaic of Sister Cathy's essence, each story adding color and dimension t