Out Of The Shadows

Shane and Gemma sit down with George Brown, the man who stumbled upon the grim scene that would reignite the search for justice in Sister Cathy's case. George's narrative is not just one of happenstance; it is a crucial piece of the puzzle in understanding the events surrounding Sister Cathy's death.George recounts his life with clarity, providing a backdrop to the day he found Sister Cathy's body. He corrects common misconceptions reported in the media about his whereabouts and actions on that fateful day. With an intricate recounting of his varied jobs and residences, George paints a vivid portrait of his life's trajectory leading up to the discovery. His work at the Maryland Vault Company, among other places, and his hunting ventures serve as a prelude to the inadvertent role he would play in this harrowing mystery.The memory of the day is relayed with a stark honesty that only someone who has witnessed such a sight could offer. George's detailed account of the confusion, the realiz

Shane and Gemma are joined by veteran journalist Tom Nugent, who brings his investigative acumen to the perplexing case of Sister Cathy Cesnik. With a career dedicated to uncovering the layers of truth in complex narratives, Nugent's involvement in the case provides an invaluable perspective to the series' relentless quest for justice and understanding.Throughout this first part of a two-episode dialogue, Shane, Gemma, and Nugent delve into the many facets of Sister Cathy's investigation, examining the pervasive abuse within the Maryland religious community and the clergy's harrowing betrayals. They explore the intricate web of silence that has long shrouded the truth, bringing to light the stories of the victims and the systemic failure to protect the innocent.Nugent shares his personal journey through the labyrinth of this story, from his initial reporting to the resurgence of interest following "The Keepers." His role in the documentary series underscored the unresolved questions an

In this milestone 50th episode in Sister Cathy's series, Shane and Gemma are joined by veteran journalist Tom Nugent, who brings his investigative acumen to the perplexing case of Sister Cathy Cesnik. With a career dedicated to uncovering the layers of truth in complex narratives, Nugent's involvement in the case provides an invaluable perspective to the series' relentless quest for justice and understanding.Throughout this first part of a two-episode dialogue, Shane, Gemma, and Nugent delve into the many facets of Sister Cathy's investigation, examining the pervasive abuse within the Maryland religious community and the clergy's harrowing betrayals. They explore the intricate web of silence that has long shrouded the truth, bringing to light the stories of the victims and the systemic failure to protect the innocent.Nugent shares his personal journey through the labyrinth of this story, from his initial reporting to the resurgence of interest following "The Keepers." His role in t

In this episode Gemma and Shane continue their evocative conversation with Sr. Rose Pacatte about the profound implications of Sister Cathy Cesnik's decision to leave the convent before her untimely death. Sr. Rose, a discerning voice on matters of faith and a seasoned scholar in media studies, provides an informed perspective on the life Sister Cathy chose to step away from, as well as the possible motivations and consequences of such a life-altering choice.This episode journeys into the heart of convent life, guided by Sr. Rose's expertise and the hosts' poignant inquiries. They discuss the nuances of commitment and contemplation in the lives of Catholic nuns and sisters, delving into the personal and spiritual dimensions that define their existence. The conversation opens up about the seldom-discussed aspects of religious life, such as cloistering, the variance in roles and vows, and the circumstances that may lead one to seek exclaustration—or a temporary leave from monastic duties.As the dial

Gemma and Shane engage in an evocative conversation with Sr. Rose Pacatte about the profound implications of Sister Cathy Cesnik's decision to leave the convent before her untimely death. Sr. Rose, a discerning voice on matters of faith and a seasoned scholar in media studies, provides an informed perspective on the life Sister Cathy chose to step away from, as well as the possible motivations and consequences of such a life-altering choice.This episode journeys into the heart of convent life, guided by Sr. Rose's expertise and the hosts' poignant inquiries. They discuss the nuances of commitment and contemplation in the lives of Catholic nuns and sisters, delving into the personal and spiritual dimensions that define their existence. The conversation opens up about the seldom-discussed aspects of religious life, such as cloistering, the variance in roles and vows, and the circumstances that may lead one to seek exclaustration—or a temporary leave from monastic duties.As the dialogue unfolds, a le

In the wake of the profound and unsettling revelations of the previous episode, this episode finds Shane poring over a document that pulls back the curtain on the chilling practices of the CIA's MKUltra program. This week, Shane brings to light a redacted CIA document from 1951, detailing experiments on two young girls—a stark reminder of the program's reach and the innocence it consumed.With a solemn warning for the potentially triggering content ahead, Shane reads excerpts that describe the manipulation of these children into a trance-like state, with the grim objective of achieving complete amnesia post-experimentation. This procedure, devoid of any sexual context within the document itself, nonetheless hints at the violation of mind and body, a subject that bears heavy on the soul, especially for those who have endured similar traumas.This episode is an essential piece of the intricate puzzle that is Sister Cathy's story and the broader narrative of abuse and power. It is a painful but necessa

In an exceptionally stirring episode, Shane and Gemma sit with Lynn, a survivor whose life story challenges the very bedrock of trust we place in our institutions. Lynn's chilling account of abuse spans the gamut from family betrayal to being a pawn in what she describes as a government-sanctioned nightmare. Her testimony aligns with the darkest aspects of Father Maskell's legacy, intertwining with the murky depths of the MKUltra program.Lynn articulates a tale of survival against unspeakable acts of physical, psychological, and sexual torture. She divulges the cruel reality of being manipulated into dissociation, a forced fragmentation of self, where coded triggers would bring about alternate personalities. This, she posits, was part of a grander scheme of control and exploitation, suggesting her victimization in a program of creating 'amnestic slaves.' Lynn's recall of events and the notable figure, Dr. Richter, whom viewers may recognize from "The Keepers," adds a significant la

In an exceptionally stirring episode of Foul Play: Crime Series, Sister Cathy, A Survivor's Account – Unveiling MKUltra, Shane and Gemma sit with Lynn, a survivor whose life story challenges the very bedrock of trust we place in our institutions. Lynn's chilling account of abuse spans the gamut from family betrayal to being a pawn in what she describes as a government-sanctioned nightmare. Her testimony aligns with the darkest aspects of Father Maskell's legacy, intertwining with the murky depths of the MKUltra program.Lynn articulates a tale of survival against unspeakable acts of physical, psychological, and sexual torture. She divulges the cruel reality of being manipulated into dissociation, a forced fragmentation of self, where coded triggers would bring about alternate personalities. This, she posits, was part of a grander scheme of control and exploitation, suggesting her victimization in a program of creating 'amnestic slaves.' Lynn's recall of events and the notable figure, Dr

In part two of a revealing two-part dialogue, Shane and Gemma engage with Dr. Colin Ross to explore a controversial question: Could Father Maskell have been a participant in the CIA's MKUltra program? Dr. Ross, whose expertise in dissociation and trauma-related disorders is recognized worldwide, brings a wealth of knowledge to this enigmatic inquiry. His extensive research and clinical experience provide the groundwork for a discussion on the notorious MKUltra program and its potential connections to the abuse allegations surrounding Father Maskell.As the founder and President of The Colin A. Ross Institute for Psychological Trauma, Dr. Ross has a deep understanding of how extreme influence, such as that exerted in MKUltra's mind control experiments, can affect memory and perception. This episode does not shy away from delving into the depths of such topics, examining the disturbing intersections of psychological manipulation and authority. With Shane and Gemma at the helm, the conversation navigates

In part one of a revealing two-part dialogue, Shane and Gemma engage with Dr. Colin Ross to explore a controversial question: Could Father Maskell have been a participant in the CIA's MKUltra program? Dr. Ross, whose expertise in dissociation and trauma-related disorders is recognized worldwide, brings a wealth of knowledge to this enigmatic inquiry. His extensive research and clinical experience provide the groundwork for a discussion on the notorious MKUltra program and its potential connections to the abuse allegations surrounding Father Maskell.As the founder and President of The Colin A. Ross Institute for Psychological Trauma, Dr. Ross has a deep understanding of how extreme influence, such as that exerted in MKUltra's mind control experiments, can affect memory and perception. This episode does not shy away from delving into the depths of such topics, examining the disturbing intersections of psychological manipulation and authority. With Shane and Gemma at the helm, the conversation navigates

In part two of this two-part episode, Wallace opens up about the Doe Roe trial, where disturbing allegations of sexual abuse within a Catholic institution came to the fore. Her articulate and insightful recounting of the case's trajectory offers listeners a rare glimpse into the complexities of legal warfare against a backdrop of systemic abuse and cover-ups.Shane and Gemma facilitate a riveting question and answer session with Wallace, whose detailed narrative encompasses the hurdles of pursuing justice in a system often resistant to confronting such painful truths. The conversation pivots to Wallace's vital role in the Netflix series "The Keepers," which revisited the tragic and mysterious death of Sister Cathy Cesnik and the broader context of abuse that may have surrounded it. As Wallace discusses the challenges she faced in court, from procedural to personal, her perspective as an attorney deeply involved in the case adds a profound layer of depth to the series' ongoing investigation.

This episode marks a gripping new chapter in Foul Play: Crime Series, as Shane and Gemma welcome a special guest, Attorney Beverly Wallace, to shed light on one of Maryland's most contentious legal battles. In part one of this two-part episode, Wallace opens up about the Doe Roe trial, where disturbing allegations of sexual abuse within a Catholic institution came to the fore. Her articulate and insightful recounting of the case's trajectory offers listeners a rare glimpse into the complexities of legal warfare against a backdrop of systemic abuse and cover-ups.Shane and Gemma facilitate a riveting question and answer session with Wallace, whose detailed narrative encompasses the hurdles of pursuing justice in a system often resistant to confronting such painful truths. The conversation pivots to Wallace's vital role in the Netflix series "The Keepers," which revisited the tragic and mysterious death of Sister Cathy Cesnik and the broader context of abuse that may have surrounded it. As Wa

In this third installment of a compelling three-part series, our hosts Shane and Gemma delve into the complex psychological terrain of abuse with Dr. Ellen Lacter, an expert on the harrowing effects of extreme and ritual abuse. This episode offers a sobering look at the mechanisms of dissociation, a survival strategy for victims during overwhelming trauma, and how these fractures in consciousness can echo through a lifetime of aftereffects. Dr. Lacter's insights into the psychological responses to abuse – from the body's automatic reactions to the enduring inner turmoil of self-blame – provide a stark backdrop to the ongoing story of Sister Cathy Cesnik's unresolved case.The conversation takes on an even more profound dimension as it explores the insidious influence of religious authority in perpetuating abuse, a painful thread woven through the dark tapestry of the history uncovered by The Keepers. Jean Wehner, whose story of survival and search for truth was a focal point of the Netflix document

In this second installment of a compelling three-part series, our hosts Shane and Gemma delve into the complex psychological terrain of abuse with Dr. Ellen Lacter, an expert on the harrowing effects of extreme and ritual abuse. This episode offers a sobering look at the mechanisms of dissociation, a survival strategy for victims during overwhelming trauma, and how these fractures in consciousness can echo through a lifetime of aftereffects. Dr. Lacter's insights into the psychological responses to abuse – from the body's automatic reactions to the enduring inner turmoil of self-blame – provide a stark backdrop to the ongoing story of Sister Cathy Cesnik's unresolved case.The conversation takes on an even more profound dimension as it explores the insidious influence of religious authority in perpetuating abuse, a painful thread woven through the dark tapestry of the history uncovered by The Keepers. Jean Wehner, whose story of survival and search for truth was a focal point of the Netflix documen

In this first installment of a compelling three-part series, our hosts Shane and Gemma delve into the complex psychological terrain of abuse with Dr. Ellen Lacter, an expert on the harrowing effects of extreme and ritual abuse. This episode offers a sobering look at the mechanisms of dissociation, a survival strategy for victims during overwhelming trauma, and how these fractures in consciousness can echo through a lifetime of aftereffects. Dr. Lacter's insights into the psychological responses to abuse – from the body's automatic reactions to the enduring inner turmoil of self-blame – provide a stark backdrop to the ongoing story of Sister Cathy Cesnik's unresolved case.The conversation takes on an even more profound dimension as it explores the insidious influence of religious authority in perpetuating abuse, a painful thread woven through the dark tapestry of the history uncovered by The Keepers. Jean Wehner, whose story of survival and search for truth was a focal point of the Netflix document

In this haunting episode of Foul Play: Crime Series, titled "Sister Cathy, Echoes of a Premonition," hosts Shane and Gemma, along with their friends Wendy and Gray, revisit the chilling and unsolved murder of Sister Cathy Cesnik. As a beloved figure at Western High School in Baltimore City, Cathy's disappearance and subsequent murder have long cast a shadow over the community. Shane and Gemma probe the perplexing details of the case, including a startling revelation from Juliana, a former student, who shares her eerie dream that mirrored the events of Cathy's abduction.As they peel back the layers of this decades-old mystery, the team discusses the frustrating twists and turns of the investigation, touching upon the potential mishandling of evidence and the possibility that corrupt law enforcement officials may have intentionally derailed the quest for truth. The implications are dire: a killer left unchallenged, and a network of silence safeguarding the guilty.The depth of the darkness surrou

In this episode, listeners are invited to join a poignant and profound conversation as Shane and Gemma welcome the family of Joyce Malecki to the show. The episode takes a detour from the central narrative to shed light on a case that, while overshadowed by the enigmatic figure of Sister Cathy, is intertwined with the same web of mystery.The murder of Joyce Malecki, just days after Sister Cathy Cesnik's disappearance, has languished in the annals of unsolved crimes for decades. This episode seeks to amplify the voices of the Malecki family, bringing their story, their pain, and their pursuit of justice into the spotlight.Through a candid and heartfelt discussion, the Malecki family opens up about Joyce's life, the impact of her tragic loss, and the complexities surrounding the investigation of her case. Shane and Gemma navigate this sensitive terrain with the respect and rigor that the Malecki family—and Joyce's memory—rightly deserve.This installment is a testament to the importance of storytelli

This episode beckons listeners into the haunting echo of an unsolved past. Join hosts Shane and Gemma as they sit down with Mary Spence, a former student of Archbishop Keough High School, who on the night of Sister Cathy Cesnik's disappearance heard something that would haunt the corridors of her memory for decades to come.In "Episode 35 - Yelling in the Night," Mary transports listeners back to that cold November evening, her narrative imbued with the unsettling clarity of a moment frozen in time. The sound of yelling that night—a startling disruption in an otherwise quiet neighborhood—may hold more significance than was ever initially realized.Through her vivid recollection, Mary adds an essential voice to the ongoing chorus calling for truth in the darkness of uncertainty. Shane and Gemma meticulously unspool the threads of Mary's story, contextualizing her experiences with the broader events surrounding Sister Cathy's disappearance.Could the nocturnal outbursts heard by Mary provide mi

In this episode, we take our audience on a solemn journey through the landmarks tied to the haunting mystery of Sister Cathy Cesnik's disappearance. Hosts Shane and Gemma transform narrative into experience as they walk the ground that has borne silent witness to the unresolved case.Join the hosts as they navigate the geography of a tragedy, beginning with the Carriage House Apartment complex—a site enshrined in infamy as Sister Cathy's last known residence before her disappearance. Listeners will hear vivid descriptions and on-site observations, adding layers of depth to the story only tangible through physical presence.The visit to these locations is not just a tour but a pilgrimage of sorts, seeking to connect with the echoes of 1969 and to glean any shades of truth that linger in these spaces. The duo's exploration provides context to the narrative, turning abstract case facts into a palpable reality. Each stop is a piece in the puzzle, potentially holding keys to questions that have lingered

This episode brings a new dimension to the puzzling tale of the mystery of the box of evidence. Co-hosts Shane and Gemma sit down to dissect the perplexing events that left listeners on the edge of their seats in a critical follow-up to last week's narrative.Joining them is a special guest, known as 'Jane the phone lady,' who found herself at the center of what was revealed to be a complex scam involving a supposed box of evidence critical to the Sister Cathy Cesnik case. This session is dedicated to unpacking the aftermath of the "box girl scenario," providing essential context and reflections on the outcome.For those captivated by last week's episode, this episode furnishes the necessary backdrop and analysis of the events that followed. The discussion sheds light on the emotional and psychological impacts of being caught in the crosshairs of hope and deceit—a common plight in the realm of unresolved crime cases.Listeners are advised to familiarize themselves with the content of the