And Still The Waters Rise.



A podcast that shares perspectives from Independent thinkers and creative doers in the Pacific and beyond. Host Naia Lewis, a healer, artist and all-around-creative from Hawaii hosts real conversations with real people. Featured guests are community leaders, artists, cultural practitioners, musicians, farmers, lawyers, healers and doctors, conservationists, and all around awesome people. For more information visit The ASTWR podcast is a project of Hnau Creative, LLC.


  • 23. Manufactured Noise: Music, Climate Change and Politics w/ DJ Spooky

    24/04/2020 Duración: 46min

    This is an original episode from Salted Logic - the podcast, from when the show was called And Still the Waters rise. DJ Spooky (aka Paul Miller) waxes rhapsodic about hip-hop, climate change, and politics. This show was recorded in a cool Soho restaurant after we had both participated in an art exhibition pop-up sponsored by the Smithsonian’s Pacific Asian American Center. As well, this was recorded just days after Donald Trump had been elected. We were all in shock. This is an interesting journey into the past. Everything we spoke about is relevant today. Curious? Take a listen. Use the player below or listen on Apple Podcasts and Sound Cloud. Visit

  • Salted Logic Guided Mediation: Sunrise - re-energize body, mind and spirit (12min)

    04/04/2020 Duración: 12min

    This guided visual meditation is called SUNRISE and is meant to help you restore your positive energy, achieve an open heart and mind, and to walk through the world in an integrated way with all life. In preparation for this journey find a comfortable, safe space where you can lie down undisturbed for the duration of this session.

  • Salted Logic Guided Meditation: Bring it! For Personal Empowerment [standing] (20min)

    04/04/2020 Duración: 19min

    This specific episode is called BRING IT! a standing meditation meant to help you find a central point of strength and personal empowerment. This session can be used before an important event in your life where you desire to or need to BRING IT... This mediation is meant to support you being your best self by showing up!

  • Salted Logic Guided Meditation: Full Body Scan - For Deep Relaxation (12min)

    04/04/2020 Duración: 09min

    This guided meditation is for overall relaxation, especially during the workday. Inspired by those who like to work at standing desks this meditation was created to support the development of a meditation practice during the middle of the day in situations where laying down or even finding a comfortable chair is not an easy endeavor or not possible. The meditation begins with breathing exercises and some body movement. It then helps you to release tension from your head to your toes via a body scan visualization.

  • Salted Logic Guided Meditation: Momentary Bliss - To Recenter (15min)

    04/04/2020 Duración: 15min

    This is the shortest guided meditation offered in the collection thus far. Momentary Bliss can be done in a standing or seated position or laying down. This meditation is helpful as a mid-day respite from stress, overwork and over thinking.

  • Salted Logic Guided Meditation: Code Red - Release Rage and Fear (20min)

    04/04/2020 Duración: 21min

    CODE RED provides a momentary respite from intense anger/rage. As anger is but a symptom of other, larger and/or deeper issues in our lives and this guided process is meant to help you feel the root emotions, address the source of this potentially destructive state, and to build capacity for healing and greater self-awareness as you move forward.

  • Salted Logic Guided Meditation: Justice League - Heal Trauma (25min)

    04/04/2020 Duración: 24min

    JUSTICE LEAGUE is a guided meditation for anyone who desires to begin identifying and releasing trauma held within the body. However, it is dedicated to, and was inspired by those who consider themselves protectors and healers of our communities, our environment and our sacred places. Trauma often occurs to healers or to those who take a stand to create positive social change on a large scale so it is important we continue to circle back and heal ourselves as well as to provide sanctuaries not simply for those who are at the heart of injustice but those who are the live out the role of protectors for us all.

  • 22. Clarinda Tusitala-Braun: Voices of mana—the matriarchal business

    15/07/2019 Duración: 01h04min

    BRINE S2.E8 - My guest for this conversation is Clarinda Tusitala Braun. A Fijian and Samoan mother of two, she has spent the last 10 years consulting hundreds of clients to not only earn sizable incomes but to prioritize making a positive impact on their communities. Now living in Hawaii, she desires to make an even more substantial impact by intentionally supporting indigenous women and women of color. Voices of Mana: The Matriarchal Business is her workshop series that is grounded in indigenous knowledge, and backed by her connection to her ancestors. Clarinda seeks to use her journey to help others embrace being “the modern matriarchs envisioned by our grandmothers, healing and giving mana to generations past, present and future.” Our conversation delves into her journey of healing and the ways she hopes to support women to be successful in business and in life. For more information on this show go to ... To listen to Clarinda's podcast go to

  • 21. Justyn AhChong: An independent filmmaker in the Pacific

    17/06/2019 Duración: 01h11min

    My guest for Brine S2.E7 is Justyn Ah Chong––an independent filmmaker, and Native Hawaiian, who was born and raised on the island of Oʻahu. He seeks to tell culturally rooted stories that amplify the depth and breadth of the wisdom of his ancestors, while simultaneously providing a platform to showcase the relationship between the intergenerational genius and trauma that has produced our contemporary Hawaiian experience. * Our conversation begins with the importance of storytelling as humans, we then move to why cultures and communities need to keep this practice alive in order to maintain control over their own narratives, and then we dive into how he carved his path into the film world and some of his own projects. * At present, Justyn is promoting his directorial debut, Down on the Sidewalk in Waikiki, a short film that highlights the Hawaiian poet Wayne Westlake, whose work was ahead of its time. The film is making the rounds in festivals across 2019 and 2020. See for more info and li

  • 20. Wainani Arnold: mind-body movement, health sciences & social enterprise

    05/05/2019 Duración: 01h28min

    Wainani Arnold, the namesake of Wainani Wellness, was raised and resides in Hawai`i. From a young age, she lived and breathed hula, which planted the seed for her growth in all forms of dance. Her current work utilizes yoga, Ayurveda, gyrotonics, and pilates; our conversation is about her journey from dance to healing, and then how she created a sanctuary for people to find and grow personal and communal wellness. We talk about the challenges of staying centered when you run a business, even when that business is about healing. The thread that runs throughout our talk is the importance of using your intuition to find the root cause of any health issue and to make self-centering the starting point. - - Wainani is a graduate from the Kamehameha Schools.  She attended Chapman University and holds a BFA in Dance Teaching & Performance along with a minor degree in Sociology. Wainani has had the opportunity to perform professionally all over the world and is passionate about her work as a movement educator, choreo

  • 19. D.S. Moss: Conversations with mystics, monks and morticians

    22/04/2019 Duración: 01h19min

    BRINE 2.5 features D.S. Moss, host of the top-ranked podcast (#30 in 2017 by The Atlantic) The Adventures of Memento Mori: A Cynic's Guide for Learning to Live by Remembering to Die. If you havenʻt listened to his show you should (but start AFTER you listen to this episode) and if you are curious about what you will experience, D.S. describes his podcast as exploring the science, mysticism, culture, and mystery of death. The show is satirical and philosophical, and follows D.S. as he attempts to reconcile his own impermanence and live a more meaningful life––but the problem is, life keeps getting in the way! Our conversation is about how Mr. Moss (a film lover and screenwriter) leveraged his talent and passion for storytelling into creating a top-rated podcast about the magic of memento mori… and somewhat on a whim no less. There is certainly more than one strategy to living life to its fullest but this is one of the more unique backstories, which showcases how serendipity can merge with intense curiosit

  • 18. Kealopiko: Styled in Hawai’i Nei - fashion, culture, commerce & community | 2.4

    09/04/2019 Duración: 01h04min

    The story of Kealopiko, a culturally-rooted Hawai’i fashion, and lifestyle brand is the focus of this episode. The storyteller is Hina Kneubuhl, one of the company's three co-founders, who shares how a botanist, a linguist and a creative got together to develop an innovative partnership that prioritizes cultural values, fulfills community needs, highlights native flora and fauna, as well as ‘ōlelo Hawai’i (the Hawaiian language) and moʻolelo (stories of place) through the vehicle of fashion. From how they create new collections and maintain their personal values to new partnerships and ensuring their production is sustainable and eco-friendly––our conversation affirms that working to bridge intergenerational knowledge with a contemporary aesthetic and technology can produce a new form of community-driven commerce that uplifts culture and prioritizes our connections to the natural world. As they like to say E ʻaʻahu nō a hoʻohanohano i ka ʻāina nei! ... "Wear it and honor this place!" ... To learn more about

  • 17. Keola Chan: finding your purpose, leadership & healing our men | 2.3

    22/03/2019 Duración: 01h05min

    Brine (2.3) is a conversation with community leader and lomilomi healing practitioner, Keola Kawai’ula’iliahi Chan. Born and raised in Honolulu, Hawaiʻi, Keola shares his journey to become a lomilomi practitioner, teacher and community leader. A musician at heart, he brings a life-affirming melody into any room, including the classroom where supports the transfer of knowledge and wisdom from one generation to the next. He is a man who seeks to rebuild communities from the inside out. Keola has been involved with many amazing projects but two of the most noteworthy are the founding of Hui Mauli Ola in 2002, and taking on the position of Ka Pounui (director) of the ʻAha Kāne Foundation in 2013. The former is an organization addressing the health and wellness of the Native Hawaiian people through hands-on healing modalities (like lomilomi), and the latter focuses on the advancement of Native Hawaiian men in order to transform the social fabric of Hawaiʻi one person, and one family at a time. Learn more about Keo

  • 16. The Butterfly Effect: Healing, martial arts & politics w/ Keoho Lewis

    28/02/2019 Duración: 02h28min

    This episode is a conversation with lomilomi (Hawaiian "massage")practitioner, Keohokalani Lewis. We begin with his personal journey to become a healer. We quickly expand into healing and martial arts philosophies and tie our ideas to overarching natural and universal cycles. The core principle that we cycle back to again and again is to first "heal-thyself." Our talk looks at the many ways we, as a society, are out-of-sync with greater natural cycles and how our sole use of the Gregorian calendar, can often limit our understanding of long-range cycles and intergenerational knowledge. We touch upon nutrition and how gut health is a mirror for personal and communal health. Farther into the podcast more of the martial arts philosophies are brought to the table and we ask... "why don't people heal?" or "why is it that some people get sick despite living seemingly "healthy" lifestyles?" As is not surprising Hawaiian history and politics are lightly sprinkled throughout. Go to for more informat

  • 15. Ilima McFarlane: fighting, family, culture & community

    20/02/2019 Duración: 01h06min

    My guest is the hard-hitting, Bellator MMA Flyweight Champ, Ilima-Lei McFarlane. We talk about her fight game but also who she is outside of fighting, what she wants to be remembered for, and her commitment to philanthropy, which includes her scholarship for Native girls 12-18 for programs with Intertribal Youth and Native Like Water. She is a super cool mana wahine; a powerful female force. She is also down to earth, funny, and has a true fighter's spirit. But not just in the ring. She is a fighter for community culture and the next generation. She has a scholarship with Intertribal Youth and Native Like Water for Indigenous girls 12-18 years old. She loves her family, especially her mom and dad, which I gotta say is what makes her fight game unstoppable. She loves hard and fights hard. Go to for more information on how to donate to her scholarship. For more information this podcast, go to // For more information on the Ilimanator Scholaarship, visit http://www.nativel

  • 14. Sonny Ganaden: Decolonizing the law, private prisons & artful journalism | No. 1.14

    31/10/2018 Duración: 01h23min

    A basic definition for Restorative Justice is as follows: a system of criminal justice that focuses on the rehabilitation of offenders through reconciliation with victims and the community at large. This definition, however, as logical and straightforward as it is doesn't speak to the kind of justice that is employed as standard practice across the globe, and this includes the United States. Experiencing the justice system, especially for indigenous peoples and (those we too easily label) minorities, is one that is not only inequitable but can have far-reaching, intergenerational effects that delay and even halt forward movement towards holistic, intergenerational, community-wide health and wellness. To discuss how this topic is playing out in Hawaiʻi and the Pacific, And Still the Waters Rise, episode 31, features Hawaiʻi litigator, Sonny Ganaden. His essay Law of the Canoe: Reckoning Colonialism and Criminal Justice in the Pacific is slated to be published in 2019 along with other authors in a volume enti

  • 13. Ho'omana: Life and death dialogues, No.1

    11/08/2018 Duración: 01h44min

    Hoʻomana is the first show in a series called––Life and death dialogues. The collection of conversations will be at least three shows, consisting of this monologue, a show on death care and a show on holistic birth.This first installment is a retelling of my own fatherʻs passing earlier this year (2018) and my experience taking care of his body, as well as the series of events that have pulled me into the death care space around cultural perpetuation and environmental stewardship.  For more information, see the blog post on this show at: SALTEDLOGIC.COM

  • 12. Ho'olewa: Life and Death Dialogues, No.2

    04/08/2018 Duración: 01h44min

    HOLEWA – Life and Death Dialogues, Part 2 is the second in a series about having agency for those intimate processes we all share. Regardless of our socio-economic background, our level of education, our culture, geography or beliefs – we are all born into physical bodies and those bodies die. The topic of this show builds upon Part 1 where I tell the story of how my famly chose to care for my dad in his death. This show is a conversation with Mikiʻala Ayau Pescaia and Courtney Gusick who are also working in the #deathpositive space. We talk about the state of Native Hawaiian death practices as well as the ecological implications of current practices in the death care industry (at least for the US). We talk about the challenges as well as potential ways forward to re-establish a positive relationship with the death process. For more information, see the blog post on this show at SALTEDLOGIC.COM

  • 11. Intellectual Genealogy: When education and culture are one w/ Dr. Willy Kauai

    31/03/2018 Duración: 01h33min

    As global momentum behind indigenizing education––and developing learning models that break from the industrial-era paradigm––grows, what is the status of Native Hawaiians within higher education? And what are the benefits of supporting multiple knowledge systems to driving wider social change? This conversation looks at these questions and takes you on a journey that offers interesting stroies from history that are very relevant for today. We ponder whether Liliʻuokalani could be a founder of the University and make a connection to the Heisman Memorial Trophy. The conversation is driven by the perspectives of Dr. Willy Kauai, PhD., who has worked within the Native Hawaiian Charter School system as well as the wider Univ. of Hawaiʻi system, and is currently the Director of Native Hawaiian Student Services at the flagship campus at Mānoa. A closing note: Although only quickly mentioned near the end of the show, Kamaoli Kuwadaʻs essay We Live in the Future. Come Join Us, Is worth the read; you can access it on

  • 10. Fifty Shades of Shamanism with Artist, healer, teacher & prophet Solomon Enos

    01/03/2018 Duración: 01h23min

    Solomon Enos, Native Hawaiian artist––and and pure, stream of consciousness––is my guest for episode 27. Our conversation underscores his vision and commitment to growing inner peace and outer expressions of aloha and love. We also interweave his philosophy on life, creating an internal alliance with your molecules and observations of the human condition, with the role of art to catalyzing change, the genealogy of money, and whether he can live forever! We also touch upon his amazing graphic novel, POLYFANTASTICA, which spans 40K years and might just be a reality the multi-verse. If you want to know more about him and his amazing art and multi-media creations, just google him and go to his website:

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